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What chords to use for that Scale?

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by kbold, Dec 28, 2020.

  1. kbold

    kbold Tele-Afflicted

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    And ..... what scale goes with that chord?

    Deep rabbit hole indeed ..... just scratching at the surface..
     

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    Here's me trying to figure out those tone maps:

    Over my head.gif
     
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    Ok, so what's the deal with these diagrams? I need clarification, or at least some links.
     
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    It's a PDF file. You shouldn't have any trouble ... I would think.
     
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    Ahhh ... good question. Do a search in this forum on 'Euler's Tonnetz' or 'Tone Lattice'.
    It's a bit lengthy, but a good idea (aka necessary) to know the Tone Lattice. Quite a few Scales and chords patterns there.

    And ... welcome to TDPRI .... (aka 'the rabbit hole')
     
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    Could someone post a link to a concise description and example of the tone map approach?
     
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    At the end of the paper, the 'summary', it mentions that you can use the B Hungarian Gypsy scale over a Dm6. Def not the best choice as the B hung gyp contains an F#. F# is the major 3rd. Any and all Dm type chords need a minor 3rd. Unless you're just speeding through it and placing it on a weak beat, F# is an avoid tone.
    Best and fool proof choice on a m6 chord is Melodic minor or Dorian from the root of the chord.
     
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    B Hung' Gypsy also contains the minor 3rd (F), so Dm will fit. So it contains the 3rd and m3rd and therefore can be ambiguous major/minor wise. Whether it's the right fit .... well, I'm not so familiar with this scale, so your comments may be correct.
    My point with this post was that if a chord fits into a scale it would be suitable. In the context of a song it may not always work. It's like playing chord arpeggio's to fit. The lattice can be used as a tool to see what chords are within any given scale.
     
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    OK I'll try.

    The tone lattice arranges all the triad chords (M, m, Aug & Dim), such that adjacent triads share two common notes, with the 3rd note being either a one or two semitone change.

    I could add more ..... but that would be more than one sentence.
     
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    Too many tritones block my path back to those righteous pentatonics.
    Jazz and brimstone await.
     
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    Found this on u-tube: a visualization of a song's chords, melody and bass on the Tone Lattice.

     
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    Thank you. A bit of work ahead. But good work.
     
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