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What capacitor should a 2001 American Telecaster have?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by dscottyg, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. dscottyg

    dscottyg Tele-Meister

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    I’m trying to restore a 2001 American Designer Edition in Silver Sparkle. The original pups were Texas Specials, and I have a set to put in. I don’t know if the tone pot was changed. Different websites say that the wiring and pickups should be the same as the merle haggard Tuff Dog Tele, both of which have the 4-way selector switch. Any info would help. Here’s a photo.
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  2. JRapp

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    .047 mF is pretty much stock for a Tele since Eisenhower was president. The voltage rating is irrelevant in a guitar circuit.
     
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    That one.
     
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    The cap has been changed, seems like. MOJO Dijon weren't standard issue.
     
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  5. sjtalon

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    No, actually .022µF is stock, Strats as well, on most all of 'em (common models).

    Since about the early-mid 80's. (Pres. Reagan actually :lol:)
     
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    Pots should be 250KΩ audio.

    Whatever cap value does the job for YOU I would say.

    Don't get too wound up on the right cap, or whatever it SHOULD have. Caps don't make tone, or a particular tone I should say, id est vintage or whatever.

    Use whatever works for how YOU want the pot to work. FTMP, when you turn the tone pot.

    IF it is too aggressive or dark too fast with that one, try a .022.

    I always say YOUR geetrar, YOUR ears.
     
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    Correct, .022uF is typically stock value except maybe on vintage reissue or other "special" models. I suggest Sprague Orange Drop or similar.
     
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    That's too bad.
     
  10. dscottyg

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    Do you think on an FSR like this on, where it has the four way selector to put the pick ups together in series, could have come stock with this capacitor rather than the .022?
     
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    Thanks, This is a FSR with the four way switch and custom shop Texas special pick ups, So do you think they might have used this cap instead of the typical.022?
     
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    Do you know if fender might have used a Mojo Dijon like this on an FSR with the four-way selector and custom shop Texas special pick ups?
     
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    I guess I'm wondering, or will ask the question; why is it so important you know what this SHOULD have had from the factory ??

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    For one thing, a model coming from the factory with a 4 w (or anyone installing one for that matter) has jack to do with the cap it has or would be used. It's true that Fender's (quite old FWIW) diagram that comes with the 4w shows a .05 cap, but as I said in my post, it's a player preference thing.

    There is no cap VALUE a certain geetar or set of pickups NEEDS exclusively that has anything to do with IT'S TONE when your pot is on 10. Just because one does not have what is SUPPOSE to be a factory used, or per spec you could say, doesn't mean your getting pealed.

    As far as the brand/model of cap, IDK if Fender would have used such a thing as they have their own versions of those filled with snake oil.
     
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  14. Tuxedo Poly

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    Fender capacitor MPF RDL .022uF 250V 10% manufactured by Illinois Capacitor (IC). Fender part number 0024832000 (0024832049) was the stock Fender cap for non vintage guitars (which generally used ceramic disc caps).
    These are very much the same as the caps Fender include with their potentiometers.
     
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    Unlikely. That would seem to be an "owners choice" modification. Furthermore, the Mojo Dijon are more frequently found in amplifiers being used as coupling caps, than in guitar tone control circuits.

    https://www.mojotone.com/support/knowledge/Mojotone-Dijon-Coupling-Capacitors
     
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    I don't think that Mojotone even had the Dijon caps in 2001. Regardless, the MD wouldn't have been a standard issue tone cap on a Fender.
     
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    Yeah the Dijon is a replacement for that 'vintage'. I expect a 0.022uF 'chicklet' cap was OEM.
    FWIW I like a 0.033uF -- a nice midpoint between .022 and .047.
     
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    THIS^^^

    If you are looking to restore your guitar to factory original so that when it's 70 years old it will be worth $100,000 - this it the capacitor that you must have.

    https://darrenriley.com/store/capacitor-022uf-0024832049/
     
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    Thanks. That is exactly what I want or at least to know in my mind that I’m playing an instrument designed in the way Fender intended. Keep in mind that this guitar was marketed as a special run “American Designer Edition” with the 4-way switch and Custom Shop Texas Special pickups. Are you still fairly sure that it would have that .022 cap shown in your link?
     
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    Thanks so much. I’m slightly confused. Are you saying that the 002483200 is the one it would have had, or the 0024832049?
     
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