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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by scout2112, Aug 29, 2019.
There are a lot of amp-in-the-room sounds. Some are in a big room a few yards from the amp. Others are like a night at home with your favorite amp just warm enough to fill a small room.
#1) put the amp in a good sounding room
The Black Crowes "Southern Harmony and Musical Companion"
Tony Joe White "One Hot July"
U2, Unforgettable Fire. Assuming the "room" is a staircase in an old castle in Ireland miced at the top and bottom and the rig includes a Strat with massive amounts of tape delay into a distorted amp.
I think the Edge spent the next decade with a rack of digital gear trying to reproduce live that highly ambient sound that Brian Eno had captured in the castle.
Steve Albini was a master of using room ambience in his productions. There are many beautiful examples from the 1990s.
Pod, by the Breeders
In Utero, by Nirvana
Any records by the Faces.
I totally agree. I’ve recorded at that studio. When I here Exile, I can picture it.
You’ve recorded in the basement of Villa Nellcote?
I think you may looking at the wrong picture. Maybe thinking of a couple of songs from Sticky Fingers from Muscle Shoals?
'This Is The Sonics' leads off with :
And the rest is just as magnificent.
It's not just the 'amp in a room' sound that's been lost, it's the whole band dynamic. The Stooges, MC5, The Sonics, and a fair few others, sound rough as a badgers fundament on the first few albums, but they make you want to flail around the room.
Wilko was insistent this was recorded to a particular sonic recipe. It's still a joy to listen to.
The pursuit of Hi-Fi and separation with timing perfection may be a fine exercise in and of itself, but it cuts the euphoria of a band rehearsed until they can't get it wrong, rocking the rafters. I'll take exciting over polish for my rock'n'roll.
For me, hands down it's the By Your Side album by The Black Crowes and especially the opener - Go Faster..... And then the drums come in.... Pow!
+1 to the other Black Crowes mention and the early ZZ Top stuff - Brown Sugar a great example
First of heard of these but I’m bowled over. Stomach-punching good.
Look mom, no pedals.
Hands down, any of the early Black Sabbath Albums, Put the vinyl on a descent turn table and Wham you are in the studio! Separation and tone maximus..one can actually picture where everyone is set up on their stage as if it is live!
When I was in my early 30's in 1992, the bass player in our Classic rock band left the DC area to go to Pittsburgh- Rather than work in a new bass player, I took this as an opportunity to get out too, and try to learn play some real authentic Chigago blues ( not just the SRV, Clapton, Rock I was playing- I call it ' guitar hero' blues)
So I put an Ad ( pre-Internet) in the DC City Paper, looking for a band ( or something...) and basically a blues band that was losing their guitar player, hired me- BUT they gave me a bunch of great music to listen to:
Little Charlie and The Nightcats
Roomful of Blues ( Ronnie Earl, Duke Robillard)
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
The sound of James Harman's voice, harp, and his bands (s) were SO good, it was life changing- I never heard such intense, locked-in blues. And just how good each player sounded
Was really lucky to see him play a few years later in MD. ( our band went and just drooled, got to say Hi, shake his hand)
The Stooges - Raw Power
The Jeff Beck Group - Truth
Tom Petty’s Damn the Torpedoes