What’s in the box? A new guitar perhaps?

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  1. Sotakoira Musti

    Sotakoira Musti Tele-Meister

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    Hi!

    Ordered yesterday 1200 hours from a shop which was more than 200 miles away. Received text at 1000 hours that your parcel has arrived. Quite quick delivery, I must say (22 hrs total from order). That’s compared to normal delivery times in Finland, of course.

    So, what’s in the box?

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    The plot thickens...

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    And there it is. What a disappointment. It’s just a Player Tele MN Polar white.

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    After the initial shock I started to get excited.

    She got to meet her older sibling right away: Am Pro P-B MN olympic white

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    Played around with Tele for a while.

    First impressions:
    - tuners were adequate, probably gonna change them somewhere in future
    - very, very nice finish for it’s price range, flawless paint and no sharp edges etc.
    - comfortable neck, even though I’ve used to thicker necks
    - tuning and intonation were all over the place
    - didn’t like the bridge and saddles at all (but that was already known)
    - quite nice sounding pickups, no hurry to change them

    So what is this Tele for? I wanted to have a ”bulk” Tele, which I could modify as much as I like. Bridge and saddles are first to go. And at the same time flatwound strings on.

    In conclusion, I’m happy. 599€ and lot’s of quality in return.

    Br, Musti

    Ps. And by all means, I don’t want to hurt or mock Player series owners. Great guitars/basses. Would have one at anytime. Just trying to be funny.
     
  2. unixfish

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    Awww, you didn't let me guess. I was going to say "Guitar!" :D

    As you said, there is nothing disappointing about a MIM Standard. I agree about the saddles - I've never been a fan of those. It sounds like you got this to mod, and that would be one of the first I would make as well.
     
  3. Blrfl

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    Hmmm, so not what it says on the box:
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    I was going to ask how you found the bridge without the upturned sides, but if that's going, I think I have my answer.

    Nice axe. Enjoy it.
     
  4. Sotakoira Musti

    Sotakoira Musti Tele-Meister

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    Thanks for replies! And as Blrfl showed us, it could have been a car fender. That might have come handy too.

    I have no mercy towards this Tele, a rookie is thrown straight to action:

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    And if it doesn’t have atleast one scratch or ding at the end of the day, I’m disappointed :lol:

    Br, Musti
     
  5. mimmo

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    Congratulations, enjoy!
     
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  6. unixfish

    unixfish Poster Extraordinaire

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    A scratch or ding on a poly coated Tele? That may take some doing!
     
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    Congrats enjoy!
     
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  8. Sotakoira Musti

    Sotakoira Musti Tele-Meister

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    I’m kinda expert on this matter. I usually play sitting in a barchair. On the left is metal rack and on the right is sharp corner of a table. So plenty of oppoturnities!
     
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  9. John C

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    Congrats - I know you're going to replace the bridge but I can't believe Fender is still shipping these with the wrong saddles.

    EDIT: I just thought of this - have you measured the bridge spacing yet? I had a Player Tele where the body was also mis-drilled (so replacing the saddles or the bridge wouldn't rectify the situation) and they had to replace the entire guitar.
     
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    Life is good … Congratulations !
     
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  11. brookdalebill

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    Cool!
     
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  12. Sotakoira Musti

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    I’ve read about this issue. I got the impression that the problem would have been only in the first batches, and they have changed it since. This one is 2018 edition so fingers crossed. If it’s faulty, back she goes.

    Wasn’t the problem that the string holes and ferrules were misplaced and you had to screw the saddles away so you could slide the string through?

    I agree with you totally. I don’t know what were they thinking when they decided to put that kinda crap in such a nice guitar?

    Edit: Ah, here it is: http://www.tdpri.com/threads/fenders-response-player-tele-bridge-re-stringing-issue.851560/

    So the culprit seems to have been the saddle it self, not that ferrules and string holes were at the wrong place. But John C got that problem also? Bad luck! Gotta take the ol’ measure tape before going to town for a new 3-piece bridge.
     
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  13. Macrogats

    Macrogats Friend of Leo's

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    Sweet guitar dude! I have an arctic white type build in my future plans somewhere. Have got an ultra cool looking bridge and control plate for her, so hoping it’ll look mint.

    Anyway, enjoy your new toy - HNGD...!!
     
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    HNGD!
     
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    Congrats; I like it.
     
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  16. Sotakoira Musti

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    Firstly,

    Regarding those crappy saddles; It seems I’ve got a bad apple. I’ll set up a game which is called ”where are the string holes?”.

    Clue number one:
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    Clue number two:
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    The answer (I’ll put a couple of enters to not spoil the fun):












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    And there it is lurking!

    Dear me, what were they thinking. Even if I was gonna change the bridge anyways, there are lots of people who doesn’t.

    Just think of a bright eyed yougster getting his/her first proper guitar. Oh the enthusiasm until the first string change.


    Secondly,

    Regarding John C’s experience where even the holes were drilled wrong (If I recall correctly), it made do an empirical experiment.

    The object was to measure from 3 different Teles 2 parameters:

    Participants:
    2017 GH RW (counts as a Vintage)
    2017 Am Pro Pine
    2018 Player

    Parameters:
    1) Distance between the back end of the neck plate to the upper end of ferrule, ie the shortest distance between them
    2) Distance between the pickguard notch (?) for bridge and a centre of the string hole

    The results are (+/- 1mm)

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    1) 30,0 cm 29,5 cm 30,0 cm
    2) 8,3 cm 8,0 cm 8,4cm

    Thus we can see that the ferrules and string holes in Am Pro are 5 mm closer to the neck than the others.

    And regarding results in test 2, I can safely install a normal 3 saddle bridge, it will fit lenghtwise. But only if the brigde mounting screws and string holes matches :D

    Finally the participants were:

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    No guitars were harmed in this test (well GH case tipped over, the dog is to blame). And do not trust the results, I don’t want to be the one everybody’s blaming :lol:

    Br, Musti

    Edit: And differences between Am Pro and the others is probably because in Am Pro the string holes are in front of the mounting screws.
     
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  17. Sotakoira Musti

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    This is all I managed to do:

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    Well, it’s a start.
     
  18. DHart

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    Hey man! Congrats on your new Player... I say mod it to your heart's content until it's exactly how you love it.
     
  19. Sotakoira Musti

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    Thanks!

    I’m just putting an order for vintage bridge and compensated saddles. Next stop will 4-way switch and cavity shielding. Then maybe tuners.

    By the way, I stripped the hole thing apart. Tuner nuts were so loose, I could twist them with my fingers. Neck is from april 2018.

    Electric wires looks like they’re taken from a childs toy. Cloth covered for me, even if it doesn’t do anything special. A wire is a wire, and a hidden one. But they’re easy to change while shielding and 4-way switch.

    Br, Musti
     
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  20. Sotakoira Musti

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    And I’d like to take this opportunity to thank you all good people for replies you’ve given. It’s truly nice to be here and a part of a worldwide Telecaster community.

    Br, Musti
     
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