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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by dented, Sep 1, 2018.
Might give it a try going full commando...
Well if you do live in the wilds of Wyoming, so that's not too big of a surprise. Fort Collins has one if you're ever out this way. A Music-Go-Round, too!
They saw you coming, Dented. I was there afterward, no locks
When they don’t secure and protect the guitars some people cry that the inventory is beat up.
When they do secure and protect the guitars some people cry that they cannot manhandle all the inventory.
My take away from this is that some people are just cry babies.
Gets really old man.
I was stalking a NAMM Tele here in town that wasn't getting any attention and slowly the price was going down until...it dropped so I loaded up my excuses for my wife and hurried over to the store to find her DROPPED! The gentle curve of her body had a over an inch flat with her AAAA vender puckered and bruised I sighed muttered to the kid and left.
It was not to be
yeah I've been hearing that for years and years, same goes for Chevy-Ford, Bud-Coors, Target, Gibson, Princess Cruise Lines and AT&T.
We have a boutique guitar store here in Adelaide that has rooms of guitars of all kinds, no really cheap ones, the cheapest I've heard was a Yamaha nylon string OM cutaway through a nice amp.
anyway, their high end stuff is vintage Gretsch, Fenders and Gibsons and two L- series guitars being the cheapest and they are all in a locked glass cabinet!!
Obviously one has to be a serious buyer and ask for assistance.
Martins, Taylors and Gibsons sit out in another room on stands.
the stuff in that cabinet is vintage and nothing under $20,000.
Izzat a Martin? Or are you just happy to see me?
I don't shop in guitar stores, but if I did... locks on the acoustics? I'd quit shopping in stores, that's what.
They don't lock the lefty stuff...
about a month ago I saw a guy try to sneak out the door with a guitar at a GC. cops came and arrested him.
I’ll make this as succinct as possible :
You can walk in the door at Elderly Instruments and 90% of their stock is customer-grab-play.
You ask no one/there’s no one standing there/and there is definitely no one in the high-end new and vintage acoustic room.
That consists of far more valuable instruments than anything they’ve ever had at GC.
The other 10% ? The $70,000 D-28’s and $35,000 1955 Telecaster* ?
Ask for it , they go get it and hand it to you and you go someplace in the store and play it.
Somehow Stan Werbin has been able to make that economic model work as a mom-and-pop.
So - there is another way.
Other stores do things differently. I hear Carter’s is very cool.
I know from experience , Gruhn’s is not.
And a shout-out to the late Stan Jay from Mandolin Bros. You could grab anything you wanted there and he’d sit and talk and sometimes play with you. A sweet guy.
*That was so-so. They had a couple relic Nocasters that time that blew it away !
No, they probably just got a problem with theft. Look around you. We have a problem with public plaques and statues being stolen that we didn't have before. It has most likely gotten worse for stores to.
You can thank the babyboomers for having destroyed all our values right here. We are a big chunk of the members
I get treated pretty well by the staff at that boutique store as I have known some senior staff/owners since 1980. I also broker deals for people, they ask, I find, then we talk $$.
I've even had conversations with people I don't know but no me as a local builder.
I get all my personal gear at a big discount ( 22%-25%).
A friend of mine got a Gitane La Grande Bouche Gypsy jazz guitar from Elderley online and was completely happy.
My point is, go for the boutique stores, they record all sales (even strings) and treat you well as a returned customer. They even let you take home a Casino overnight and let you say:" No. I want a 335- not an extended string length "- I've seen a guy do that.
I always get discount there. Example, a Hwy 1 Blonde Telecaster priced @ $1995- I got for $1365 guitar only- fair enough.
I would hate to see a chain like GC here as they seem like a supermarket with sales people with no knowledge. We have to pay more here but at least we get good service, good backup and know how as to what YOU want.
Also, think of the kids in their teens. I have 50 years of experience, my first repair was a nut I made in 1969. What c..p do these GC people put over just to make a sale? What disappointment would they create in teenagers?
My GC is, and has always been, organized with three tiers of guitars up the high wall. The bottom one is easy to get to, the middle one is a stretch for an adult, and you simply can't reach the top one. The bottom one is the inexpensive guitars and the middle one contains... figure it, the more moderate guitars. I guarantee you will only find the nicest ones on top where even the salesmen have to use a ladder. The most expensive electrics are behind the counter.
Now the disclaimers: I am a mature man who has bought several guitars and amps from them. Most of the salesmen know it. When I ask to try an expensive guitar they know I might just buy it. I feel certain they size up the customer when they are deciding whether to pull down an expensive guitar. Buuuut... I routinely go in to the store in ratty jeans and sneakers and a T-shirt.
With that said, if I ask for one of the more expensive guitars they will cheerfully get it down for me. They don't hover while I'm trying. I try, and have bought, guitars from all three tiers.
Now i'm going to have to check out my local GC (Roseville CA) to see if they put locks on the guitars. To be quiet honest theres only maybe dozen guitars that require locks.
It is sad and just another sign of the devolving times.
I test out a guitar just the same as I hope the person who tested out the guitar that I want to buy someday. I think it is called, "respect". A term getting lost in today's world.
It was good that GAS tunnel vision hadn't yet kicked in!
I guess I’m showing my age here but back in the day instruments were respected and people would ask to hold and try something out at music stores. GC stores helped to kill that in a big way. Sure, it’s great to just be able to pick up whatever and try it without asking but that privilege has been seriously abused.
Every time I go into a GC there’s always someone trying to show they know the first part of Sweet Home Alabama or Smoke On The Water. I used to work in a music store a few years back and the no talent, no money, time wasting hosers drove me nuts.
The general lack of respect is shameful. You know, it might come a time one of these days where if you want an instrument the only way to get it will be to order it online. Again, getting to try out an instrument at a store is a privilege.
We now have that at my local GC..... right out on the floor. The Gibson showcase has a bunch of guitars, but the really nice Standards and other higher end guitars are all locked. Right next to the unlocked lower priced variants.
I was disappointed. Last thing I want to do is go grab a mook to unlock and make a fuss out of picking one up and strumming it a bit.