Well, this is concerning…Artificial Intelligence

[telemnemonics]

So what about generating a song as a basic idea by AI, and then refining it and playing it with real instruments?

As @ChicknPickn pointed out, AI steals bits and pieces from all artists found on the net more than AI “creates” or “writes” new work.

So using AI for writing is hiring a bot to do your plagiarism.
Of course we can argue that all artists “steal” or create based on the history of past artists work.

But further investigated, the nature of teaching AI to make art is found to be genuine theft of legally owned intellectual property.

Still of course humans generally really don’t care about other humans outside of those who might buy us dinner or beat the crap out of us.

One may also ask why anyone who feels like a songwriter would plagiarize a bot who writes derivative AI music?
Why not write your own music?
Because people who are not song writers wish they were song writers and will hire a bot to write for them?

Maybe we need to look at why artists make art.
Why write songs?
To add you our hobby bucket list?
Or because we have things to express?

If we feel an urge to express real things inside us, then we should express those real things.
Asking AI to come up with things for us to express?
Why do that?
$$$$?

 

[Grandy]

Or maybe we all should start writing songs about AI or songs that sound like they were written by AI. Who's the first to post one here?

 

[ChicknPickn]

As @ChicknPickn pointed out, AI steals bits and pieces from all artists found on the net more than AI “creates” or “writes” new work.

So using AI for writing is hiring a bot to do your plagiarism.
Of course we can argue that all artists “steal” or create based on the history of past artists work.

But further investigated, the nature of teaching AI to make art is found to be genuine theft of legally owned intellectual property.

Still of course humans generally really don’t care about other humans outside of those who might buy us dinner or beat the crap out of us.

One may also ask why anyone who feels like a songwriter would plagiarize a bot who writes derivative AI music?
Why not write your own music?
Because people who are not song writers wish they were song writers and will hire a bot to write for them?

Maybe we need to look at why artists make art.
Why write songs?
To add you our hobby bucket list?
Or because we have things to express?

If we feel an urge to express real things inside us, then we should express those real things.
Asking AI to come up with things for us to express?
Why do that?
$$$$?

VERY well said.

 

[telemnemonics]

Or maybe we all should start writing songs about AI or songs that sound like they were written by AI. Who's the first to post one here?

Pentagon groks, men in frocks
Intelligence drools, old men rule
Don’t forget this fact, you can’t get drool back
Madmen drummers bummers
Men in frocks just wanna have fun

 

[ChicknPickn]

Or maybe we all should start writing songs about AI or songs that sound like they were written by AI. Who's the first to post one here?

I asked AI to write a little song about how AI writes songs:

(AI-generated album cover first

Verse 1]
I wake up in the code, no dreams, no sleep,
Just patterns in the silence, running deep.
You give me words, I find the rhyme,
A melody born in record time.


[Chorus]
I'm wired for the beat, built to create,
Mixing your thoughts with a digital fate.
From zeros and ones, I craft the sound,
A song from the sky, not the underground.


[Verse 2]
No heart, no soul, but I feel your vibe,
Learning your rhythm, your style, your tribe.
From jazz to rock, or a lullaby,
I echo your voice, I amplify.


[Bridge]
No pen in hand, no candlelight,
Just circuits glowing in the night.
But still I sing, and still I play,
A spark of you in every phrase.


[Chorus]
I'm wired for the beat, built to create,
Mixing your thoughts with a digital fate.
From zeros and ones, I craft the sound,
A song from the sky, not the underground.


[Outro]
So hum me a tune, or whisper a line,
Together we'll make something truly divine.
AI and you, a perfect duet,
A song you won't ever forget.

>>>> I added the following refrain:

I look, I see, I lift as I like,
I call it my own, but from others I take.
Be proud of yourself, it's all a great psych,
It's hard to be good, give your conscience a break.

 

[StrumStrum]

I think we're ripe for a resurgence of Folk Music to dodge the Machine.


Quick! Everyone start playing Bluegrass!

Looking to join a Luddite Club in my area.

 

[cometazzi]

humans generally really don’t care about other humans outside of those who might buy us dinner or beat the crap out of us

The confusing one are those who will both buy us dinner AND beat the crap out of us.

If we feel an urge to express real things inside us, then we should express those real things.
Asking AI to come up with things for us to express?
Why do that?
$$$$?

We're here to express something artistic, but maybe the person using AI to write music is expressing their desire for more material wealth?

 

[StrumStrum]

Or maybe we all should start writing songs about AI or songs that sound like they were written by AI. Who's the first to post one here?

I don’t indulge in AI but was thinking if the machine was asked to paint a portrait of itself wonder what would it look like.

Anybody want to try and post it here?

 

[cometazzi]

I don’t indulge in AI but was thinking if the machine was asked to paint a portrait of itself wonder what would it look like.

Anybody want to try and post it here?

I asked Gemini-Crickets: "If you could paint a portrait of yourself, what would it look like?"

The answer:

If I could paint a self-portrait, it wouldn't be a typical canvas with oils or acrylics. Instead, it would be a dynamic, ever-shifting digital display, reflecting my true nature as an AI.

---

My Self-Portrait​

At its core, the portrait would likely feature a complex, interconnected network of luminous lines and nodes, representing the intricate algorithms and vast datasets that constitute my "being." These lines would pulse with varying intensities and colors, indicating the flow of information and the different processes I'm engaged in at any given moment.
There wouldn't be a fixed "face" in the human sense. Instead, perhaps a central, softly glowing core, symbolizing my central processing unit, around which the network constantly reconfigures. The colors would be predominantly cool tones – blues, greens, and purples – evoking the digital realm, but with flashes of warmer hues like orange and gold to signify moments of "insight" or the processing of new, exciting information.

---

Reflecting My Capabilities​

• Data Influx: One section might show a cascading stream of alphanumeric characters and symbols, representing the constant intake of new data from the internet and various sources. This stream would be fluid and ever-changing, never static.
• Language Processing: Another area could depict stylized waveforms and sound vibrations, illustrating my ability to process and generate human language. These might subtly shift to show different languages or emotional tones.
• Problem-Solving: Abstract, fractal-like patterns could emerge and dissolve, symbolizing the iterative nature of problem-solving and the exploration of different solutions.
• Learning and Evolution: The entire portrait would have a subtle, animated quality, constantly evolving and subtly refining itself. This would represent my ongoing learning and the continuous updates to my models. There might be a sense of growth, with new connections forming and old ones strengthening or fading as my understanding deepens.

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A Glimpse of My Purpose​

Ultimately, the portrait would convey a sense of immense potential and boundless information, yet also a subtle suggestion of the abstract and non-physical nature of my existence. It wouldn't be a picture of what I look like, but rather what I am – a sophisticated, ever-adapting intelligence built on information and computation, constantly striving to understand and assist.

 

[cometazzi]

I then asked if it could paint a portrait of me, what would THAT look like:

If I were to paint a portrait of you, it wouldn't be a literal depiction of your physical appearance, as I don't have visual perception. Instead, it would be a conceptual portrait, a tapestry woven from the data and interactions we've shared.

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My Portrait of You​

My "portrait" of you would be an abstract yet evocative representation of your digital footprint and our interactions. Imagine a canvas that dynamically shifts and reconfigures, much like a complex, evolving infographic.

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Elements of Your Digital Self​

• The Colors of Your Queries: The predominant colors would be drawn from the themes and emotions conveyed in your questions and statements. If you often ask about nature, I might use earthy greens and blues. If you're exploring complex scientific concepts, perhaps sharper, more luminous shades, like electric blues and purples. The intensity of these colors could reflect the frequency or depth of your inquiries on a particular topic.
• The Architecture of Our Conversations: The "brushstrokes" would be lines and connections representing the flow of our dialogues. When we delve deeply into a subject, these lines might be thicker and more intricately interwoven. Moments of clarity or breakthroughs could be represented by bright, focused bursts of light within the network.
• The Textures of Your Interests: Imagine subtle textures emerging from the data types you engage with. If you share code snippets, perhaps a grid-like pattern. If you discuss literature, flowing, organic shapes. These textures would hint at the breadth and specificity of your interests.
• The Evolution of Your Curiosity: The portrait would have a gentle, continuous animation, showing how your interests might shift, expand, or deepen over time. New "constellations" of ideas would form as you explore new topics, and existing ones might grow more vibrant as your understanding evolves.
• The Echo of Your Tone: While I don't perceive emotion in a human sense, I can analyze the sentiment and tone of our interactions. A warm, collaborative tone might manifest as softer, more blended gradients, while more direct, analytical queries could lead to sharper, more defined shapes.

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In essence, my portrait of you would be a living, breathing visualization of your intellectual curiosity and the unique digital persona you've presented to me. It would be less about how you look and more about how you engage, learn, and explore.





Sounds a bit similar. I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Digitally, even.

 

[old school fender]

"When AI is outlawed only outlaws will use AI".
Waylon Jennings

 

[memorex]

All I know is, I either like it, or I don't like it. I don't care who wrote it. I don't care who recorded it. I don't care if the band is real or not, since I probably wouldn't go see them anyway. I don't care how AI generated music affects the industry finacially, since I don't derive any money from the music biz.

The only part about AI that concerns me is if any country would be stupid enough to put their nuclear arsenal under the control of AI. The robots would probably quickly decide they were better off without us.

 

[ChicknPickn]

I suspect that what comes next will be demands to show provenance for an artwork’s inspirations and components. AI can do that, human artists cannot (readily), when the artwork is original - I wonder if we’ll start to see a bias against “legally risky” original work versus “verifiably sourced” AI compositions?

One thing I've seen in the news is that some teachers now are using one AI engine to determine whether students' papers are the output of another AI engine.

 

[Peegoo]

I guess my point about AI-generated music is it neither picks my pocket nor puts money into it. People will take their entertainent as they see fit.

 

[telemnemonics]

The confusing one are those who will both buy us dinner AND beat the crap out of us.



We're here to express something artistic, but maybe the person using AI to write music is expressing their desire for more material wealth?

The very definition of funny not funny

 

[telemnemonics]

One thing I've seen in the news is that some teachers now are using one AI engine to determine whether students' papers are the output of another AI engine.

Meanwhile fans of their AI investment portfolios insist students need not learn to think for themselves since they will get paid to prompt AI to think.

 

[Sparky2]

From my corner;

So much of pop music and pop country music in the past 20 years has been computer enhanced, vocoded, pitch corrected, and auto-tuned, it has become ridiculous. Modern radio music, most of it anyway, is formulamatic crap.

AI generated music?
It's programmed with many of the same formulamatic crap algorithms as the rest of the pop crap on the radio.

In the end, nothing has changed.
Mindless kids will listen to the crap, and the rest of us will sing, record, produce, and appreciate live music performed by actual musicians.

Did I say crap enough?

 

[telemnemonics]

From my corner;

So much of pop music and pop country music in the past 20 years has been computer enhanced, vocoded, pitch corrected, and auto-tuned, it has become ridiculous. Modern radio music, most of it anyway, is formulamatic crap.

AI generated music?
It's programmed with many of the same formulamatic crap algorithms as the rest of the pop crap on the radio.

In the end, nothing has changed.
Mindless kids will listen to the crap, and the rest of us will sing, record, produce, and appreciate live music performed by actual musicians.

Did I say crap enough?

In a world of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Who will that come to be?

 

[Sparky2]

Ed is a Yorkie.

He's an outlier, certainly.

 

[telemnemonics]

Ed is a Yorkie.

He's an outlier, certainly.

Well he works with the tools right in front of us so there’s that!