Well, this is concerning…Artificial Intelligence

[Sparky2]

Well he works with the tools right in front of us so there’s that!

Hey, I like the guy.

He plays and sings in a genuinely brilliant fashion.
My band played his radio hit at a number of gigs years ago.

He's an exception to the mountains of crap in modern pop radio.

 

[Freeman Keller]

Open mic tonight. Real musicians, real music.

 

[msalama]

Well I'm of the opinion that this, too, shall pass in due time.

 

[Piggy Stu]

It’s all over the interwebs so it must be true.

that David Hartley video is one of the most intellectual discussions I heard on music in some time

I guess, in a free society, if Spotify record the sound of a brick smashing around in a cement mixer, then everyone chooses to listen to it, that's freedom? The rest of us just need to mop our tears for what has been lost in the world

 

[Grandy]

"When AI is outlawed only outlaws will use AI".
Waylon Jennings

Now that's a song title right there.

 

[Jupiter]

One thing I've seen in the news is that some teachers now are using one AI engine to determine whether students' papers are the output of another AI engine.

Nah man that was 2024

 

[Trenchant63]

Peegoo beat me to it. It will have zero impact on me. There’s no use getting up in arms over this. I can’t see me ever buying any AI derived music or buying any of it. Streaming will give it a place to live/thrive and make money for whoever produces/creates it. It just won’t be my money

If you KNOW you’re buying AI derived music (or any art) in the future… disclosure of origin will be critical in the future to even know what you’re seeing/hearing is AI generated as it improves.

 

[sadfield]

I don't even see the objective of AI art and music to be the art or music. It's just a vehicle for AI to learn how to learn, with zero jeopardy in the outcome. No different to how humans use drawing and art with children, to aid development and learning. It's never about the finished work. Most never make art in adulthood, but excel in other areas. AI is in it's infancy, and is being treated that way. The content it creates is just the kids painting you put on the fridge door for a week or two, and tell them how nice it is.

Secondly, there isn't a finite space for art. AI content adds to art, not inhibits it.

 

[Trenchant63]

The total investment number in AI is well north of 5 trillion dollars.
Nuclear reactors to be built to keep the data centers up and running.
All just to make the next Ruggles all girl band?
I doubt it.
AI is coming for everything.

I’m in the AI industry and am worried about it. EVERYONE will be impacted. Its capabilities are astonishing and are at a very early stage. A colleague at work told me it’s the Industrial Revolution for thought workers but I’m not sure that analogy fully captures all of the implications because I think AI could at least partially destroy the concept of work itself. Humans are designed to create, work, innovate, etc. The space in which they can do that as humans without technology will become very narrow/specialized. Approx 60% of earth’s data and about 30% of the world’s compute sit inside of public clouds and is growing fast. What happens when a few select companies own the majority of the world’s compute, data and AI capabilities? You think they’ll have a seat at the table of determining where the world is going to go? Their power will be enormous. We just had this past week an executive at a firm having layoffs telling those sacked to go to AI for emotional support (in so many words). I’ve seen more than a few references from execs/entrepreneurs in this space about AI being some kind of supreme being for people. I told a friend whose son has a business for demolition, owns heavy equipment and considering selling the business to become an attorney - look hard at that. Don’t stray too far from those diesel engines, booms, buckets just yet. I realize there will be positives with AI it’s not all dark, but the world shift will be unprecedented in my opinion. Sorry for my dystopian view here - hoping I’m full of **** and proven to be an alarmist.

 

[StrumStrum]

I’m in the AI industry and am worried about it. EVERYONE will be impacted. Its capabilities are astonishing and are at a very early stage. A colleague at work told me it’s the Industrial Revolution for thought workers but I’m not sure that analogy fully captures all of the implications because I think AI could at least partially destroy the concept of work itself. Humans are designed to create, work, innovate, etc. The space in which they can do that as humans without technology will become very narrow/specialized. Approx 60% of earth’s data and about 30% of the world’s compute sit inside of public clouds and is growing fast. What happens when a few select companies own the majority of the world’s compute, data and AI capabilities? You think they’ll have a seat at the table of determining where the world is going to go? Their power will be enormous. We just had this past week an executive at a firm having layoffs telling those sacked to go to AI for emotional support (in so many words). I’ve seen more than a few references from execs/entrepreneurs in this space about AI being some kind of supreme being for people. I told a friend whose son has a business for demolition, owns heavy equipment and considering selling the business to become an attorney - look hard at that. Don’t stray too far from those diesel engines, booms, buckets just yet. I realize there will be positives with AI it’s not all dark, but the world shift will be unprecedented in my opinion. Sorry for my dystopian view here - hoping I’m full of **** and proven to be an alarmist.

Thank you for your input, my concern is that is not a Chicken Little the sky is falling post, I have seen this before.
In my youth I had a few temp clerk jobs on Wall Street. I remember how you could not ever walk a straight line on the lower Broadway sidewalk at lunch time due to the 1000’s of fellow paper jockeys out for their breaks. I hated that kind of work but 10’s of thousands made a life for themselves doing it, homes, families, etc. Found my way and spent a lifetime working outdoors and loved it.
So, here’s the thing. There were very few computers. Remember the massive firings that came later due to computer innovation, a simple Stone Age desktop PC.
Went down to that area a few years ago, a ghost town, majority of the buildings turned into condos, very little foot traffic, mostly tourists.
That one was just one industry changed forever.
I repeat myself, over 5 trillion dollars invested in this monster already.
No one is safe.

 

[toanhunter]

personally I don't want to work harder, I want AI to destroy the current music industry as we know it because it's awful anyway, there will still be demand for live music and live musicians, it can't re-create that, I'm not keen on how enthusiastic our UK PM is about implementing it, but we can't go back, I feel recently like we're being increasingly pressured into using it and I don't like that, it reminds me of when facebook came out, I absolutely hated it and still do, why do you think people don't meet anymore? I have memories of my entire family meeting pretty much every single christmas and new year in all the years before facebook came out, it saddens me.

 

[agent_zed]

Really? Ed Sheeran?

These are the lyrics to one of his hits. With such intelligent lyrics as
'
I'm in love with the shape of you
We push and pull like a magnet do
'

What is a 'magnet do'?

or this


'You and me are thrifty, so go all you can eat
Fill up your bag and I fill up a plate (mmmm)'

Is she a horse? Is she filling her handbag with food?

If this is the best of real people, then no wonder AI is taking hold.

 

[teletail]

It’s hilarious. People who never even recorded a song let alone wrote something that hit the charts are all peeing their pants over AI taking over the charts. It’s like being jealous of Brad Pitt because he was doing Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie, as if you would have had a chance with them if it wasn’t for Brad.

Until AI shows up at the local VFW to play for $500, I’m going to say that I’m not too worried.

Now, this is all related to music. If I wasn’t retired, I’d be concerned about how AI was changing the work place.

 

[msalama]

wasn’t retired, I’d be concerned

Likewise. Am so glad I don't have to work anymore, and as it comes to the rest of this so-called revolution, well, they can just shove it. Hey, machine-produce ALL the slop you'll ever want for all I care, since it destroys neither my record collection nor our excellent museums and galleries

 

[telleutelleme]

AI only has benefit if there is a consumer or consumers for what it generates. Sort of like Henry Ford vs. Horse power.

 

[imwjl]

When synthesizers were a new thing and more when Mini Moog came out I recall my gigging musician dad against others thinking it was horrible. This would have been near 1970. He said the sound from our Mack truck and hay bailer were music too.

 

[fjblair]

You don’t see the forest for the trees.
AI is coming for everything.
The only ones that will flourish will be the tradesmen and tech slaves maintaining the data centers.

Can anyone say honestly that the generations with iPhones grafted onto their hand will give a hoot if their favorite band is artificial or human?

I see the forest very clearly. The subject is music, not the AI takeover of the world.

 

[msalama]

benefit if there is a consumer

And the tech bros will only benefit if consumers have money, which they won't if they're unemployed. It's the trickle-up effect, eh?

 

[old school fender]

And the tech bros will only benefit if consumers have money, which they won't if they're unemployed. It's the trickle-up effect, eh?

Therein lies the mystery. Of course the tech bros know things we aren't privy to... or do they?

 

[telleutelleme]

And the tech bros will only benefit if consumers have money, which they won't if they're unemployed. It's the trickle-up effect, eh?

Some futurists predict GNP will actually be consumption. Consumers will be paid to consume. Businesses will be taxed on rate of consumption. Consumers will receive "money" based on types of consumption. Whole new form of government. Seems hard to grasp. Glad I will be long gone.