Well that was a strange Derby finish

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  1. RodeoTex

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    #1 finisher Maximum Security disqualified.
     
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    So … the horse that lost won .
     
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    65-1 shot wins it.
     
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    Crazy. It was definitely a lane excursion but I didn’t think they’d overturn it.
     
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    I didn't think they'd overturn it either, but that sort of thing gets ruled as such in the lower races all the time.
     
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    R.I.P. Kentucky Derby. You are a joke.
     
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    The 20 horse is the one who complained was not affected by the lane change at all. There's some money changing hands in back rooms I'll wager.
     
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    Rules are followed in the more minor races.
    It's refreshing to see that they are enforced here too. - despite all the media hype.

    Bob Baffert taking a loss didn't exactly hurt my feelings either.
     
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    I had mixed feelings about it, but Maximum Security definitely went 2-3 lanes out. It all seems benign until a couple horses go down, a jockey is hurt and horses have to be euthanized! That was avoided but not by much.....especially in the mud.
    SO I guess in the end, I have to agree although it's a bit sad. What applies to every day races has to apply to the big ones!
     
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    What @schmee said.
    I didn't really care for the finish either, but all need to play by the same rules.
     
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    But did the horse that won lose ? This simple question can have considerable value when it comes to stud fees .
     
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    And that is just one of the many reasons that I do not watch horse racing with any enthusiasm. Auto racing or even in track, a little rubbing or throwing a elbow is part of racing, but not in horse racing. It seems really silly and over-protective to the point of no longer being a competitive event. If that is the rules, then they got it right, but it is those kind of rules that ruin competition. I watched that replay 4 times and never saw anything that really had any real impact on the results.

    As the old saying goes: It is better to be lucky than good.
     
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    ^^^Super-close to having a couple of horses go down.

    And , as others have said, jockeys are dq’ed all the time in everyday races for that kinda lane wandering.

    It was the right call and , if anything, it has helped the effort to re-legitimize horse racing.
     
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    I bet I can guess which horse gets the higher stud fees ;)
     
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    At what point in the race does the rule about drifting out of a lane kick in?

    When I watch the first video in this link it looks like Maximum Security is the only horse holding a lane. All the other horses are drifting all over the place.

    https://sports.nbcsports.com/2019/0...use-wins-after-maximum-security-disqualified/

    I’ve only been to the Derby once. My wife and daughter are A class hunter jumpers. Admittedly I’m a dummy when it comes to race rules. I don’t understand. I was very confused and disappointed.
     
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    The "winner" wasn't as affected as the two other horses that Maximum actually did cut in front of.

    Those are the owners that should be the most pi$$ed off I'd think.

    Double or triple the entrance fees and set the bar a little higher for qualifying for the Triple Crown races.

    There was a little over a million dollars in entrance fees for that race. $50,000 approximate per horse. Pretty spendy two minutes.

    A twenty horse field is just plain ridiculous.
     
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    I don't see a problem with it.
    I think they should be encouraged to get up close, get em loose and spin them into the wall.
    And for goodness sake, run more than one lap.
     
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    I thought it was a good call. It could have been a dangerous situation. You can't bump your way to the front like stock car racing.

    It was kind of awkward that the winning jockey couldn't speak much English. The woman commentator wasn't prepared for that. Congrats to him.

    I wonder why Mike Smith doesn't ride for Baffert now?
     
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    I'll bet that there will be no Triple Crown winner this year.
     
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    I think Mike Smith was on a Baffert horse that was scratched earlier in the week due to a health concern. It was the favorite at the time, Omaha Beach. I believe the horse had some sort of surgery. Baffert said he didnt want to bump another rider for Smith that late, so another trainer/owner did and Smith rode for them.
     
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