Weber 12F150 in Princeton Reverb?

[Fred Rogers]

I have a Princeton Reverb with a 12” baffle. I’ve been switching out speakers just to hear what I like best. My favorites so far are the Eminence GA-SC64 and the Celestion Alnico Cream.

Thinking of trying a Weber 12F150, but I’m wondering if this speaker might be a little bass heavy with a Princeton. What do you think?

 

[uriah1]

I would not think so. Buddy has one in a DRRI which is pretty
nice. More in the Fender American camp. I also have the Cream in my Bourdeaux PRRI, and like it.
Maybe too much headroom, but, that is what pedals are for. imho

 

[DavidP]

Try the 12F150T version!!

 

[bftfender]

have pair with light doping in my Pro Reverb. I am slightly more of a marshall tone player. in general with some pronounced mids. The f150 in the pro are very american but very full..no flub on bass at all. The Pro is very fender if need be but the speakers allow some familiar i hear.

I ran my jtm 45 into the speakers..very good results. I would think the speakers are able to be Am/brit & and have come to depend the Pro with the speakers.

fenders i have. Super with jensens, Super with jupiters..the Pro with Webers is a very well rounded combination that really respond to how you play it..excellent clean tones & the ability to pop out with a lil boost.for leads. Can play that amp riding guitar controls & a boost pedal & cover alot of ground. I dont think the bass will be anything but powerfull & defined..the opposite of the jensens in a way. I like them for the slight bottom. I have 2x12 cab with jensens i love it but it is not tight like the weber f150

 

[schmee]

It should be fine. The T version a bit better as the PR often needs treble near 6.5 to = other BF style fenders. But at 7 or so the 12F150 should be fine.
But frankly, the Ga SC 64 is killer already.

 

[King Fan]

What's your intended use, style, setting? I agree the T is a nice version, and I agree they aren't famously dark or bass-heavy. OTOH, they are kinda massive and, well, *accurate.* Are you wondering if they might amplify any PR bass flub? They might, and they might amplify any PR sparkle or shimmer that wanders into icepick territory.

On the upside, it's a big speaker. On the downside, it's a really big speaker.

 

[Peegoo]

Many years ago I was looking for a replacement speaker for my Princeton and I called Weber. Ted (peace be upon him) answered the phone and we chatted for about 30 minutes. He suggested I try the 10F150, based on what I wanted--more low end punch/reduced farting out--because I had installed a beefier OT and the stock speaker was distorting in the low range. I got the speaker into the amp and couldn't be happier with the tone. Thanks Ted!

 

[Pharmerdavid]

I have a Princeton Reverb with a 12” baffle. I’ve been switching out speakers just to hear what I like best. My favorites so far are the Eminence GA-SC64 and the Celestion Alnico Cream.

Thinking of trying a Weber 12F150, but I’m wondering if this speaker might be a little bass heavy with a Princeton. What do you think?

It does have a lot of bass, so while it sounds awesome in a Deluxe Reverb's larger cabinet, not sure if I'd use it in the smaller Princeton cab. I like 10" speakers in Princeton sized cabs, but you already have a 12" baffle, so probably set on getting a 12"..? Me - I'd go with the GA-SC64 to keep the classic Fender tone in that classic amp, a Celestion will sound great too - but different................

 

[King Fan]

Good info, may help others, but the OP here may have moved on since this 2019 thread...

 

[drri]

It does have a lot of bass, so while it sounds awesome in a Deluxe Reverb's larger cabinet, not sure if I'd use it in the smaller Princeton cab. I like 10" speakers in Princeton sized cabs, but you already have a 12" baffle, so probably set on getting a 12"..? Me - I'd go with the GA-SC64 to keep the classic Fender tone in that classic amp, a Celestion will sound great too - but different................

Currently on the speaker hunt for my 12in PRRI and The 12f150H is coming up in my radar.... While I do have the 10in Alessandro in my 10in PRRI it's also my crank and wank amp where as the 12in will be more of my full clean volume use pedals kinda of thing. Just not quite the GA-SC64 is right for that.

 

[LostGonzo85]

Currently on the speaker hunt for my 12in PRRI and The 12f150H is coming up in my radar.... While I do have the 10in Alessandro in my 10in PRRI it's also my crank and wank amp where as the 12in will be more of my full clean volume use pedals kinda of thing. Just not quite the GA-SC64 is right for that.

I would skip the hemp cone and just get 50W 12F150 if loud and clean is what you want. Hemp cones are popular for Deluxe Reverbs, but the Princeton is inherently darker and IMO, you'll lose all of your dynamics and touch sensitivity going with a speaker that is so stiff. I would think the Emi Allesandro 12" would also be an ideal choice for this application.

 

[Powdog]

A vintage Jensen C12N is my favorite speaker in a PR. The Weber 12F150 is as close as you can get. Just pulled a TT hempcone out of my VC, way too dark. IMO the Jensen/Weber has the perfect balance of sparkle and thump.

 

[schmee]

Currently on the speaker hunt for my 12in PRRI and The 12f150H is coming up in my radar.... While I do have the 10in Alessandro in my 10in PRRI it's also my crank and wank amp where as the 12in will be more of my full clean volume use pedals kinda of thing. Just not quite the GA-SC64 is right for that.

A GA SC64 is superb in a Princeton for 'clean and big' sounding. It's a much more robust speaker and very different specs than their 10". I have the 12 in my PR and in my Deluxe. It holds up well at higher volumes.
But a 12F150T or even F150 is superb in a Princeton, but must be a 50 watter! The interesting thing about Weber's 10F150 or 'T' is it uses the same specs as the 12", same voice coil and available in the 50 watter etc. Good job on their part.
Although a GA SC64 12 is my go to speaker, for a Princeton, I would lean to the Weber 12F150T 50 watt to get max out of a Princeton.

 

[Encinitastubes]

I'm a fan of the 12F150 and tried a bunch of its variants when I had mine, a Gries 12 with a 12" speaker cutout. The winners were a 12F150-B, which is a 12F150 with a British cone, and a 12A150. The latter seemed to provide a softer attack and more depth, which worked well in the smaller cabinet.

 

[drri]

I would skip the hemp cone and just get 50W 12F150 if loud and clean is what you want. Hemp cones are popular for Deluxe Reverbs, but the Princeton is inherently darker and IMO, you'll lose all of your dynamics and touch sensitivity going with a speaker that is so stiff. I would think the Emi Allesandro 12" would also be an ideal choice for this application.

That was kinda what I was thinking to on the Hemp cone. Noticed I tend to run the treble high enough as is.

 

[LostGonzo85]

That was kinda what I was thinking to on the Hemp cone. Noticed I tend to run the treble high enough as is.

I had the regular 12F150 (50W) in a SF Deluxe Reverb, and felt it was plenty warm in that amp while retaining the Fender sparkle, and like I said, the Deluxe Reverb tends to brighter, at least at sub-gig volumes. I also have the 10F150T (25W) in my Princeton and after trying a few speakers, that one is the clear winner. Weber got the formula right on these - they're efficient in the low frequencies, so you can actually run the bass knob lower which helps eliminate the Fender "flub", and they have great clarity and sparkle without the sterile ice-pick treble of the new Jensens.

 

[Minivan Megafun]

I had the 12F150 in the PRRI that I owned. It sounded great. Loud. Big. Full. Could play that amp unmiked with the band no problem.

 

[Esquier]

I use a 12" Weber ceramic Blue Dog 30W. Pretty nice with a bit of sparkle

 

[drri]

Welp got the Alessandro in and so far it's the clear winner of all that I've tried... Will keep my eyes open for a Weber 12F150 and try it out if I find one.

 

[tjnugent]

I have a Princeton Reverb with a 12” baffle. I’ve been switching out speakers just to hear what I like best. My favorites so far are the Eminence GA-SC64 and the Celestion Alnico Cream.

Thinking of trying a Weber 12F150, but I’m wondering if this speaker might be a little bass heavy with a Princeton. What do you think?

I would keep it with a 10" and if you need a good speaker, understood. The sweet character of the Princeton Clean tone is best replicated through a good 10" speaker. The 12" totally changes the amp, IMHO.