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We ain't afraid of no ghost. Are you sure?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Hey_you, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. notmyusualuserid

    notmyusualuserid Friend of Leo's

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    That's fantastic, but have you noticed that the non-believers don't keep on starting "I don't believe in ghosts" threads? Then when we chime in to these threads we get sarky comments?

    I wonder why religion is banned here, but spooks aren't. Both require equal amounts of faith in the invisible.
     
  2. MrCairo46

    MrCairo46 Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    I’ll believe in ghosts, departed spirits of those who once walked earth with us, but draw the line at ghost clothes. I refuse to accept that the spirits clothing somehow attained the ability to become supernatural.
    Therefore naked it’s ghosts for me and Anna Nicole Smith’s ghost can visit me anytime.
     
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    I never discredit or ridicule another person's beliefs; we are all free to believe what we like.

    My own opinion on this matter (YMMV) comes from me being ultra practical about most things. I have seen things that I'm certain some folks might attribute to being a ghost (a person crossing a room, a person disappearing into a wall, etc.), but never in my direct center line of vision, and never when I'm 100%; it's usually when I'm mentally or physically fatigued.

    When I went through survival school in the AF, one of the training phases was resistance training and solitary confinement, where they locked each of us in a small low closet devoid of light for a few days, coupled with repeated interrogations. Prior to this mistreatment, the instructors told us we would probably 'see' things that were not actually there in the dark cell.

    They were right, because the combination of sleep deprivation, being forced to stand, and other mental and physical stresses plays havoc with a person's perceptions. I have thought about this a lot since then, and I'm pretty sure the imagery is a product of how the brain works, sort of like the brain playing a random length of tape from memory that arbitrarily leaks into conscious thought. But it's not entirely clear and it's distorted/transparent/glowing/etc. because it's a random fragment from memory that finds its way into a person's present situation.

    It's a uniquely individual experience because it comes from within, and usually when things are very quiet with very little sensory stimuli. How many reports are there of ghosts seen in a crowded supermarket, or on a packed 737 while flying to Dubuque? Additionally, reports of multiple people all seeing a ghost at the same time are rare, and often polluted, exaggerated, or hoaxed by the types of people that defend the existence of ghosts, e.g., the paranormal investigator that makes a living from it.

    For me, ghosts are similar to a dream in how "real" it appears to be. I've done a lot of reading on this stuff and have taken a few psychology courses, and I think dreams are the result of the brain defragmenting data and rearranging it in memory while the rest of the body is switched off. I mention this dream connection to the ghost thing because it has always struck me as odd that ghosts and aliens almost always appear as humanoid (sometimes animals), but pretty much always something familiar in appearance to things we all experience every day. Things from memory.

    That is why I believe ghosts exist only in my own brain. A person's perceptions are their own individual reality--just like how some people can read all caps and it's not a problem, while others will reply with "why are you yelling at me?" Nobody's yelling anything. But some people hear it.
     
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    I love stories of the supernatural as long as they're not too far out of the realm of possibility. I'm not into debunking, I believe that you believe what you saw and I want to hear about it. Bigfeets too! Lay 'em me. It probably won't change my opinion on the matter but it's still a heck of a lot of fun.
     
  5. Torren61

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    You're welcome to post in any of MY threads at any time. Your opinion has value. No snark, just gentle ribbing like I would give anyone. That was a caveat, lol.
     
  6. Buckaroo65

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    Casper's nekkid.
     
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    So what I hear you saying is that EVERYTHING that exists is within the visible spectrum of light, and is capable of being photographed.

    Of course, its just not true...
     
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  8. Peegoo

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    No, that is not what I'm claiming at all.

    You're hearing things ;)
     
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    No, but your own words said that with EVERYONE having a camera, we can expect that clear photos are possible of EVERYTHING.
     
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    The discussion of ghosts can and is interesting. As for this piece, despite having surprisingly great bumper music Coast to Coast AM has a deserved reputation. If half of what they reported was accurate we'd be tripping over cults, UFOs, ghosts and other oddities every time we left our homes. Doesn't mean I've never tuned in to hear what bat boy was up to this week. :p
     
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    Lost Phantom Boy will believe anything if you feed him enough snake oil.:cool::D
     
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    Well said. I try to live the same way. I like to hear other people’s opinions when they don’t agree with me because I want to understand where they’re coming from. I don’t want to change them. If I changed everyone so they all thought like me this would be a boring planet. And there’d be no apple fritters left because they’d be everyone’s favorite, not just mine. We can’t have that.
     
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    Keep talking like that and I’ll cancel my next order of snake oil from you.
     
  14. Hey_you

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    That interview was useless. The guy had no clue. ""Didn't happen to me". "I don't know". "I never saw". If I was the producer, I would be choking someone out!
     
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    using scientific methodology is very a precise tool until applying an under resourced model.
    If important data is not included the process the conclusions will always be specious.
    Just because I can prove that you don't exist using my methodology. does not mean that you are not real.
    do you exist, or is my scientific method flawed,
    proving that some one is a witch only requires putting the suspected witch in water.
    if they float they are witches because witches are made out of wood and wood floats, burn the witch.
     
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    Peace out. It was only a radio show.
     
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    If it can be seen by the naked eye, you should be able to photograph it.
     
  18. soulgeezer

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    Most of the places where ducking was used as a test for witchcraft tended to hang their witches, not burn them. Just an interesting historical tidbit.
     
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  19. soulgeezer

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    I don’t look down on people who believe in ghosts. I just assume they don’t understand much about brain science.

    Even if you poo poo the science, Occam’s razor tells us it’s far more likely for ghosts to exist in the mind rather than real life.

    I still enjoy spooky movies, though!
     
  20. rangercaster

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    I must apologize, I thought this thread was about goats ...

    My bad ...

    Carry on ...
     
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