Way To Memorize Relative Minors

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by ADinNYC, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. P Thought

    P Thought Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Hmm. I can't think of an F. D. guitarist either.
     
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    AD, i think these discussions are great! It wasn't a dead fish at all!

    It's started conversation the gave me some additional insight to the relative minors!

    Thanks for putting it out there and to all the others who jumped in!

    This has become my favorite part of the forum!

    KC
     
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    I believe the relative minor is a key, not a chord.

    The relative minor key shares all of the same notes, eg, key of C and key of Am.
     
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    The relative minor is both a key and a chord.
     
  5. megafiddle

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    But aren't there several relative minor chords?
    In C, there is Dm, Em, and Am
     
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    Yes, but THE relative minor of a tonic is the vi chord.
     
  7. megafiddle

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    Ok, so there is the relative minor chord.

    Didn't know that. Is it because it is the key chord in the relative minor scale?
     
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    Probably because it is the most closely related diatonic minor triad to the tonic major triad. As Ken pointed out the relative maj/min share two notes in common. The two other diatonic minor triads are certainly related to the tonic major triad because they are in the same key but they are not nearly as closely related in terms of sharing common notes. That's probably why the VIm is called the relative minor.
     
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    The only minor triad built with scale tones which contains the tonic. Key of C - Dm = DFA; Em = EGB, Am = ACE.
     
  10. megafiddle

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    Em shares two notes though?

    edit - just noticed, only Am has a C in it
     
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    It isn't the sharing of notes. The only one that has a C is Am.
     
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    That makes the most sense.

    But....if two triads are going to share two notes that will make the most 'relatedness' it would be the R and 3rd. So the 'C' nails it and the 3rd puts the icing on the cake in terms of the strength of relationship. (I think that makes some sense, doesn't it?)
     
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    Does to me. How about this for a definition: "The note naming a minor chord's third is the note naming its relative major." Or, "The note naming the root of a chord names the third of its relative minor."
     
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    Did you mean to say Ab Major?

    Ed
     
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    Or F# minor.
     
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    No I meant to say F#minor. :oops:
     
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    I am giving this to one of my guitar students. He is just getting into improvisation and these would be great pneumonic devices for him- Thanks!
     
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    That's cool. Also it might inspire him to find out who those guys are if he's a youngin' who doesn't know.
     
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