Waterslides -- cool or crooked?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Collin D Plonker, Aug 5, 2020.

Are waterslides legit or fraud

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  1. Collin D Plonker

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    I bought a Warmoth neck that had a Fender waterslide. I didn't feel bad about it because I was using it on a strat with all other parts genuine Fender.

    But when I built a Warmoth partscaster with only a few Fender parts I opted for the Warmoth waterslide.

    Now, I also had a guitar I thought was real and turned out to be a Chinese fake. The first thing I did was to sand off the waterslide.

    So what is your opinion? Are Fender badges for Fender necks only? Are any waterslides legit? Is it better to have no badge than to have a fake one?
     

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    Illegitimacy rubs me the wrong way, so if it ain’t a real Fender made by Fender, then it shouldn’t have a Fender sticker
     
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    If you mean fake logo waterslides (put on a guitar not made by that manufacturer) then I'm opposed to them because they are simply untruthful, and no rationalization can change that underlying fact. On the other hand, you can get wonderful custom waterslides that can create a great look and say something truthful. Also, it is possible to finish in a waterslide so that the edges disappear into the nitro -- a much better look. But faking someone's brand is inexcusable.
     
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    I put a Fender decal on my partscaster when I built it in 1991. It wasn’t an issue back then. No forums at the time! I figured it had mostly Fender parts on it and made no claim it was genuine. Probably wouldn’t do it now.
     
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    It even seems hard to find someone that will put a Fender Waterslide on an actual Fender neck.

    I have been wanting to have the headstock on one of my Teles painted to match the body and a new Fender Waterslide put on after.

    I have been having a hard time finding someone that can or will do it.

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    MEH. If you feel you are cheating with a waterslide, but are faking a guitar body, neck, pickup/control arrangement, etc, then why draw the line at the waterslide? You are copying someone else's work with all of that. You better invent your own body shape and controls.
    You can't play the waterslide, but you can fraudulently play a Strat clone!
     
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    I'm with @Stringbanger .... at it's least it is disingenuous, at it's worst ...it's fraud.
     
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    If it's licensed by Fender, then I don't have a problem with it. They are paying Fender for the privilege and Fender approves.
     
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    Brand names should be put on a guitar only by that guitar mfg company. I've seen horrendous builds with a false labeling...laughable.
     
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    Yes! This is exactly how I feel

    If it’s licensed I have no problem putting a fender decal on it

    Now if it’s counterfeit then no

    I voiced this opinion not to long ago and took some flack for it
     
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    I used to do Fender waterslides, not anymore, I just make my own now especially as I build them !!

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    Even did this on a strat recently
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    If you're not selling the guitar, then fine, do what you want. If you're going to sell the guitar, then remove the water slide as otherwise you are selling a counterfeit item whether or not you disclose the fact. The next person selling may not be so honest leading to someone getting ripped off.

    I suppose to a certain degree the same issue of being counterfeit goes for copying any registered trademark (e.g. headstock shape) but it's more of a problem if it says in writing on the headstock that it's something it is not.
     
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    y'all have to read the action park book.
     
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    isn't the next person the one selling the counterfeit?
     
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    Where's the "ten foot pole" emoji?
     
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    Its like passing off a hooker as your girlfriend. Its your money for what it is worth.
     
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    It seems to me that half the fun of making your own partscaster would be to give the guitar a cool name.
     
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    My partcaster is definitely not a fender. The only fender part is the switch. But it definitely is a..

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    I use them on all the 100% fully licensed by fender partscasters I built. I try to build them as close to what ever spec build I’m going for at the time. So say I build a 62 Strat, I’ll do it to the exact specs(close as possible) to a 62 Strat.

    I play it for a bit and sell it off. Like always. So I go to sell it as a partscaster and ask $1500 CAD. So if there’s some fool out there thinking he’s getting a real 62 Strat for that price he’s dreaming. Even if the guy I sell it to tried to pass it off as a real 62 Strat, any vintage collectors will immediately spot it’s a fake.

    That’s why I never get these post about fake decals. Yeah people get scammed but there’s so much information out there to spot a fake in a heartbeat.
     
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