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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by 3-Chord-Genius, Dec 17, 2017.
This is what I learned today from guitar forums and YouTube comments.
I just picked up an AC15C1 last week, and just now realized I've completely forgotten to order a Hot Cake to go with it. The Internet told me it was the only dirt pedal that works with a Vox except maybe a Rat.
In all seriousness, I'll probably build a Hot Cake clone just to see what the fuss is aboot.
There are simply too many different types of overdrives out there for people to make such generalizations, and yet they do. I have pedals that work great with certain amps and poorly with others. One size does not fit all.
Oh, and a Rangemaster.
Here, decide for yourself:
Well, it just goes to show that there are two kinds of people in the world. People who think there are two kinds of people and those who don't.
Wait a minute...
I used to have a tube Vox Super Berkeley Reverb (apparently there were tube versions and solid state versions - mine was tube). This was about 2000.
With an old script logo MXR Distortion + and my ancient Marshall 4x12 cab with Greenbacks, it sounded completely identical to Van Halen 1 - Van Halen 1984.
I loved that amp... but it was not well built, and was always needing work done to it. It was not road worthy, which is what I needed at the time.
So I sold it online.. to a guy that worked in research and development at Sans Amp / Tech 21. They ended up using it as the basis for several of their analog modeling pedals at the time (not sure which ones).
FWIW, I haven't found an OD yet that I couldn't use with my AC15C1. My OCD is really nice with it, and currently I'm enjoying my BD-2, which is one of those pedals that Vox amps are supposed to be particularly bad with.
My Rat and MXR il Torino work just fine with the AC15C1. Had a DOD FX50 that worked just fine also, gave it to a friend though.
I'm not sure it's the amp as much as doesn't work with your ears. A tomato/tomahto thing.
I've used a lowly TS-5 with my AC-15 for years. It shouldn't work according to most everyone on earth, but I sure like it.
BTW, a Zendrive sounds incredible, especially with a P-90 LP, a little compression and delay.
I've been using a silver Archer with my AC15C1, and its been fine. I think some people just have a hard time dialing in a Vox dry, and it becomes much harder when you have the added complexity of pedals.
The problem with Voxs' and pedals is that they're finicky. Most don't sound good, but a few sound great. You've got to do a lot of research to see what works.
My old Digitech Distortion didn't jive with my AC15C1. Not sure why, but it was a muddy mess. It has sounded good with every other amp I ever owned though. After watching a bunch of YouTube videos I got a Rat; it's beautiful.
Every overdrive pedal I've tried on my AC15C1 works great. I've just had to find the appropriate settings for the pre-amp and master volumes and EQ controls. It isn't difficult. Just remember VOX ACs are strong in the high and upper mid-range frequencies and weaker in the lower end. Plan and adjust your settings with that in mind.
Vox amps don't like overdrive pedals; Vox amps love overdrive pedals.
Mine actually does take the Prince of Tone pretty well, but I prefer it cleanish or at its own edge-of-break-up. When I do overdrive it, yep, I really like its inherent over-driven tones. Bells with rockets! It's very much an amp that doesn't need added OD, since its master volume and top boost functions can scorch it up so well.
I find that what it really needs is not added OD, but good added reverb and delay. Its on-board versions of both are lacking, compared to classic Fender reverb and tremolo.
I'm with you on the reverb...
But I quite like the trem circuit on the AC15's. I wouldn't say its better than a classic fender circuit, just different.
Based on what I've read on the internet, I know it shouldn't work, but my ts-5 in the right spot sounds great through my Ac15. I'm fact, it sounds like the Vox with the preamp volume turned up. It allows me to get both the natural clean and overdriven sounds out of the amp without changing the overall volume.
The Rat is my go to distortion pedal. It gives me a nice sustaining distortion and a volume boost for solos and slide parts.
Is your AC15 trem swooshy? Mine's almost unusably so, but then again, it is well over-due for new tubes....
AC15c2 here.. T-Rex Mudhoney into an MI Audio Blues Pro for low/moderate/stacked gains really blew me away.. The T-Rex replaced a Gain Changer.
I've not noticed a swooshyness...
But when I use the trem I use it sparingly, just a touch of "warble"
My Zen clone was always in front on my AC15 with Red Fang.