1st off - this isnt an action setup question. More complicated than that Im afraid! Im taking my guitar to a guitar tech to adjust the intonation for an upcoming recording. I was showing him the guitar - Ive a MIM telecaster with a 3 saddle Gotoh Wilkinson bridge. I explained to him, to get the action low (now, I dont mean low - I mean low enough, ive actually quite a high action with 52-10 strings - at the 12th fret 4/32 on the e string), I had to add a bridge side shim. The saddles were simply too high to achieve this action on the guitar. It was a major problem. My opinion of the shim was actually - its great - I got a bigger break angle off the saddles, the strings felt easier to bend, and I got the action perfect. I didnt notice any loss of sustain. The guitar was easier to play, and just fun. Hes taking the opinion of removing the shim as part of the setup and getting the intonation right - its not that its a problem because of the shim - he just doesnt seem to like shims. This is extremely risky for me as if the guitar returns and I dislike the way it plays, Ill have to get it set up again at more expense and extremely close to the recording in 2 weeks. My question is - so ive some way to explain the situation - I want to convince him that the action will be too high if he removes the shim. Altering the setup majorly. So what I need to know is - roughly - with saddles at a certain height, on a standard telecaster what roughly the resulting action is. So for example (with the shim) My saddle height on the 6 string is 30/32, resulting in a unfretted action of a little under 4/32 at the 12th fret. The saddle height minimum is 12/32 - Im wondering what the minimum action would be on a normal tele neck without shim at the 12th fret. Hes the tech, I understand that, hell be able to bend rules to make it easier to play - but I think removing the shim will totally alter the way the guitar feels and responds. Its not like theres a gun to my head to take the guitar to him, but Im pretty sure Im right, which is also important for me to know! Although I could be wrong. Its not THAT unusual.