Vintage Refin Opinions

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by gtrfinder, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. gtrfinder

    gtrfinder Former Member

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    Hello folks.
    Im a longtime lurker here, but I think this may be my first post on this forum. Looking for some opinions on a refinish project.

    I'll start this off by saying that Im generally a vintage Gibson guy and know more about their vintage finishes than Fender's, but I have a basic knowledge and have owned several vintage Fenders.

    I found a stripped out 1966 Tele that Im going to have made into my "perfect" Tele for me. I know what I want hardware-wise, but Im unsure about the finish. Being a '66 the odds are highly in favor of this originally being a blond finished guitar. Ive had a '66 before that had its original blond finish and it was great, but given that I have a blank slate to work from it would be cool to do a finished guitar that I'd never be able to afford normally. I love Gibson's Pelham Blue and Inverness Green finishes and how they yellow out and patina over time. From some pics Ive seen the closest Fender equivalents would be the metallic colors like Ice Blue or maybe Firemist Silver. Im really open to anything though, as long as it is vintage period correct for a Tele.
    FWIW - the guy who will refinish it sticks to period correct colors.

    Let me know what you think!
    Thanks!
     
  2. wallis222

    wallis222 Tele-Afflicted

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    There were many custom colors available from Fender in the mid 60s. I know someone on this site has compiled an online catalogue with many pictures. Hopefully they will chime in and provide a link. My favorite would be Lake Placid Blue.
     
  3. chris m.

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    stripped out?

    I am not sure what you mean by stripped out-- i.e., did the finish wear off naturally over time, or did someone actually use solvent and strip it down to bare wood. If this is an original '66, keeping it original may retain more value than refinishing it. Even if someone intentionally stripped it, the approach you use from this point forward could have a big effect on its value. I would recommend looking into that before putting anything on it.
     
  4. gtrfinder

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    Thanks

    Here is a pic:
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    I'm pretty well aware of the relative value of the guitar as is, and if I were going to flip it or if resale was a factor here I'd either leave it as is or have it done in blonde.
    More than likely going to keep this one for me and as stated above, optimize it for my uses.
     
  5. Telepi

    Telepi Friend of Leo's

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    Can you call Fender with the serial number and see if they can tell what the original color was? That would be cool to restore it as was.

    Cool looking too, with how it looks in your picture.
     
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    Look in the pickup routs and neck pocket. Chances are some of the original finish is there.
     
  7. gtrfinder

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    Thanks again. Does anyone have a vote for a particular color to refinish it in?
     
  8. Telemarkman

    Telemarkman Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    In 1966 the color options would have been:

    Blond
    Sunburst
    Sonic Blue
    Olympic White
    Black
    Foam Green
    Fiesta Red
    Dakota Red
    Candy Apple Red
    Blue Ice
    Firemist Gold
    Charcoal Frost
    Ocean Turquoise
    Teal Green
    Firemist Silver

    The choice is up to you.;)
     
  9. Ricky D.

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    Cool project. It sounds like you have all the details figured out except for the color. Good choice IMO to go for a period-correct solid color refin. That grain isn't good enough to show off. Value-wise, I think you are better off on this plan than leaving it as-is.

    I'm voting olympic white.
     
  10. Telemarkman

    Telemarkman Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Either that or Dakota Red, my favorite red.
     
  11. johnnykazz

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    I would look up all of the colors mentioned as available finishes in 1966 and find your favorite. If you want to "restore" the guitar, I would do as someone said and call Fender with the serial number; they should be able to tell you what the guitar left the factory with in 1966.
     
  12. bransonb

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    A Telecaster should always be blonde and never black . . . But Dakota Red is pretty nice! Didn't Stephen Stills play one in Dakota Red around the "Super Session" time? Or was it Candy Apple Red like Muddy's? That works for me too!
     
  13. Bartholomew3

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    Looks like my 68 a bit - I sanded it partially in 1971 (was stuck in Northern Ontario at 40 below for a few days after a gig), painted it with red maple to bring out the grain, sanded again to remove the red maple and finished it with clear satin varathane which has yellowed over the years.

    Had it cut for a HB way back and of course ruined the original pickguard so recently got a new B/W/B and floated an Area T noiseless as the original neck p/u burnt.

    Plays great, I should re-finish properly but when doing shows nobody cares.

    Bottom line is that I liked the Area T neck so much I bought a matching bridge p/u and it's in perfect balance plus silent like my Les Pauls.
     

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    +1 for Dakota Red.
     
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    First, if this was mine, I'd leave it exactly as it is. Damn that is a cool looking axe.

    Second, it's not. So...from looking at the inside of the horn, it sure looks like yours was blonde. However, that's not my favorite color, especially not with a rosewood neck like that. I'm a sucker for reds, so for the period correct finish I'd do either Fiesta or Dakota Red.

    If it were mine and I was hellbent on refinishing this one, I might go with Shell Pink, though, even though it's not period correct.

    On all of these I'd go white pickguard.
     
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    I like the grain. I'd do a butterscotch or see through Mary Kay,.. something that would show the wood.
     
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    Olympic White, Mint green pick guard with Rosewood neck is an awesome combo, next would be Firemist Gold.. Might lean that way because it's less common.. Save the pastels for the strat crowd..
     
  19. EsquireOK

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    Looks like a fun project.

    I would paint it yourself, honestly. The worst that can happen is that you'll screw up, and then it's easy enough to strip it and try again. You have the satisfaction of doing your own work, an you learn a useful skill in the process.

    Remember that A 100% nitro paint job (sealer, color, and clear) on many '60's Fenders is quite inaccurate. Many '60's custom colors, particularly the metallics, were acrylic lacquer for the color coats, and nitro lacquer for the clear, all over a thin, sprayed-on plasticy sealer called "Fullerplast." Most of the custom colors that were carryovers from the '50's remained nitrocellulose recipes, while most of the custom color introduced in the '60's were new recipes, and made use of the new and improved acrylic lacquers for the auto industry. Most of the pro restorers work exclusively with nitro lacquer unless you really specify otherwise, so if accuracy is your goal, make sure to insist on it. If pressed to do so, a good restorer should be able to mix the original-spec recipes using the vintage-correct binders for the color being used.
     
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    That is ash, and would have most likely had a blond finish. But you can certainly do any color you like.
     
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