And how much better would that charging infrastructure if it were universal, again like China.
Vehicle shopping surprise of the day.
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hdvades
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Did Leo Fender design the electric guitar? I don't understand your question.
Yup. As I've said before, I'll go EV the moment I can drive down Via Baltica to Berlin as easily and conveniently as I can with our little Seat Arosa now. Or in other words, most likely never.
Dbrian66
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Just an update, the car was delivered early! It was built on May 16 and I took possession of it on May 31. What a fun car!Back in January I ordered the exact opposite of an EV. I ordered a 2023 Camaro SS. The car was just built last week and I should take delivery of it in June or July. I looked at some of the EV’s. They are definitely cool. But at heart, I am a gear head, and I figured this would be my last chance at owning a true American muscle car. I keep cars for ten years, so in 2033, everything will be electric or hydrogen based probably. I’ll get my EV then. And it will probably be faster than the Camaro!
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Back in January I ordered the exact opposite of an EV. I ordered a 2023 Camaro SS. The car was just built last week and I should take delivery of it in June or July. I looked at some of the EV’s. They are definitely cool. But at heart, I am a gear head, and I figured this would be my last chance at owning a true American muscle car. I keep cars for ten years, so in 2033, everything will be electric or hydrogen based probably. I’ll get my EV then. And it will probably be faster than the Camaro!
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You could probably remove that word 'probably.'
bottlenecker
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Leo designed the amps, and did a fair amount of actual design work on the guitars. I think his amps are closer to genius than the guitars, but either way he did real work that mattered. He didn't just buy a company that already did the work and attach himself to it.
I don't know about east of Berlin but our kids just returned home from living with family in Germany and Luxembourg quite jealous of differences. It has been too long since I've been in Eastern Europe go make any judgements.
E67 on some charge station maps looks a lot like many 1000 - 2000 km stretches in the US, and it was interesting to to see news from east of Germany with very similar growth.
We don't have Seat brand here or a VW smaller than a Golf. The kids said one cousin has a VW van. US will be getting a longer version next year. All of them use trains and even planes much differently than we have it here. I don't know if that extends so much northeast where you are.
hdvades
Tele-Afflicted
Telsa Motors was incorporated o6/2003. The founders were looking for venture capital. Enter Elon Musk. Read "History of Tesla, Inc.-Wikipedia". He did more than just buy a company. I guess people who don't like Elon Musk will never like him. Peace.
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maxvintage
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So here's a real-life use case scenario. I have to drive to a family reunion at the jersey shore in a couple weeks. 191 miles. Now that it's warm we are showing 265 miles of range at full charge in our car, a Kia Niro. So I can make it there pretty easily. I plan to stop at an Irish music session in philly and play: 151 miles away. There's a charging station in a parking garage on the same block as the pub where the session is going on. So three hours of charging while playing music will put me at full charge. Then 70 miles to the beach house, arrive with over 180 miles of range. Charging at the parking garage in Philly will likely be expensive, but it won't be the cost of a tank of gas. The parking garage will cost more than the charge.
Things that could go wrong: the car loaded with a week's worth of beach stuff will get less range; traffic on I 95 is always bad, it will likely be hot requiring lots of AC, which will decrease range some. So it's possible I'll have to stop, plug it in at one of the state rest stops or at a WaWa off 95, get lunch, take a bathroom break, and get back on the road. Below is a map of charging stations available on the way, starting in Baltimore. The orange ones are "level 3" fast chargers, which get you to 80% in 20-40 minutes or less. The ones with a wrench icon are under construction
Ok but let's say I don't make a stop, and arrive in Ocean City, NJ with 50 miles of range left. There aren't many public chargers in OC, and they are all at the far end of the island, and demand will be high. What to do?
It's possible the rental has a level 2 EV charger--a lot of them do. I haven't checked because I didn't book it. But if not, I'll pull in, put the car in the garage, and plug into a 120 outlet. They charge at the rate of about 5 miles per hour, so in 24 hours you get @120 miles of range. Over the course of six days at the beach I'll leave with a full charge. I'll need to use the car some while down there, but so what? It will all be local. And a 120 outlet will get the job done.
So this is a typical use on the east coast. It's only going to get easier.
In the west distances are longer: in rural areas there are obviously fewer chargers, so it's less practical. It may never be practical for some uses. I'm not towing anything, for example, or driving across Nebraska. But I'm not sure people realize how this is working right now, and how easy it is right now. It does take some planning, and charging on the road is slower than gassing up.
Things that could go wrong: the car loaded with a week's worth of beach stuff will get less range; traffic on I 95 is always bad, it will likely be hot requiring lots of AC, which will decrease range some. So it's possible I'll have to stop, plug it in at one of the state rest stops or at a WaWa off 95, get lunch, take a bathroom break, and get back on the road. Below is a map of charging stations available on the way, starting in Baltimore. The orange ones are "level 3" fast chargers, which get you to 80% in 20-40 minutes or less. The ones with a wrench icon are under construction
Ok but let's say I don't make a stop, and arrive in Ocean City, NJ with 50 miles of range left. There aren't many public chargers in OC, and they are all at the far end of the island, and demand will be high. What to do?
It's possible the rental has a level 2 EV charger--a lot of them do. I haven't checked because I didn't book it. But if not, I'll pull in, put the car in the garage, and plug into a 120 outlet. They charge at the rate of about 5 miles per hour, so in 24 hours you get @120 miles of range. Over the course of six days at the beach I'll leave with a full charge. I'll need to use the car some while down there, but so what? It will all be local. And a 120 outlet will get the job done.
So this is a typical use on the east coast. It's only going to get easier.
In the west distances are longer: in rural areas there are obviously fewer chargers, so it's less practical. It may never be practical for some uses. I'm not towing anything, for example, or driving across Nebraska. But I'm not sure people realize how this is working right now, and how easy it is right now. It does take some planning, and charging on the road is slower than gassing up.
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Many just don't know or come clean with how a lot of companies and products started. With that is a lot of irony in how the all of us and companies pay for research that is foundational for it all. Big programs that started and still are part of defense efforts also underpin our well being via every day products and materials.
It would be easy for me to change my opinion of Musk and I hope he does mature and behave better on some issues just like others have in history. That could not change the way I dislike a Model Y and 3 dashboard.
A whole lot of vehicles still tear at my sense of inner cheapskate, class and fitting in. We've had flashier rides, but for anyone who read or remembers Harvey MacKay, we prioritized a nicer home and neighborhood before a fancy ride. We've also prioritized do stuff over have stuff.
