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Used or New Teles?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Andy Summers, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. ricardo1912

    ricardo1912 Tele-Afflicted

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    I've only ever bought three new guitars. I bought my white Cab without really meaning to. I only went to GAK in Brighton to try one out of curiosity. When I realised I'd been playing it for over two hours it really had to come home with me.

    I bought my second Cab when Thomann were blowing them out for under half price. I did mean to keep it for a while and try to make a small profit but I still have it.

    Last new one isn't a Tele but a les paul junior that was made by a chap in Wales, wasn't expensive and satisfies my p90 itch.

    Apart from that I usually look for hardly used stuff or guitars that people have bought but not got on with.
     
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  2. jman72

    jman72 Tele-Afflicted

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    Used. Let someone else take the depreciation.
     
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    In my entire stable, I don't think there's a single new guitar...
     
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  4. Martocaster

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    So this all poses another question, who is buying all the new guitars to fuel the used market?!!

    I mean now I think about it I’m shocked to realise that I’ve bought 4 new guitars since 2017, but two are keepers and the other 2 I sold. I can’t keep the used market going on my own! :D
     
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  5. Rufustelestrats

    Rufustelestrats Tele-Holic

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    I used to be in the new only camp. My guitar my way and at one time I had an inside track to great deals, since I spent way too much money. Fast forward to retirement and frugality, I now am hesitant to buy new, other than perhaps if I find an amp or custom item not available used. The benefit for new is finance at 0% from GC and others. Let them carry the interest, if they will. I have purchased my last two tele's used. Both were owned by collectors or light players, as they both look as if they went home, and went under a bed. In fact I found a 25 year old amp the same way. Limited production of less than 350 and Made in USA Fender amp less than $500. You need to watch and know what you are looking at, as most GC used and many other used ads do not either know what they have, or mis-identify the gear condition or the exact model.
     
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  6. Colo Springs E

    Colo Springs E Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    I pretty much always buy used, unless there just isn't any available inventory for what I'm looking for. Even then, I'll typically only buy new if it's a blowout sale, clearance, etc.
     
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    Either way, it's all good.
     
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  8. Vermoulian

    Vermoulian Tele-Meister

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    Lately I’ve been building partscasters so I guess those count as new, but I didn’t buy them from somebody else. Before that I got most of my instruments used, but occasionally I’d buy new if I found something special and/or a really good deal.

    Interestingly, of my Teles, two were bought new (plus one used and one partscaster—two used if you count a G&L ASAT Special). Each of the new ones came in a limited edition finish that had not been offered before, so used was not an option.

    It’s been a long time since I was actively shopping for a particular guitar. I’ve got a bunch and don’t remotely need another, although you never really stop looking—GAS may go into remission but it is never cured. But nowadays if I buy a guitar it’s because serendipity put something special in my path. In that circumstance, new or used is not really a deciding factor.

    All that said, if my house burned down and I needed a new guitar I’d certainly look for a nice used one, because why pay more? But I’d be open to a new one if I found a really special instrument.
     
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  9. brenn

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    Exactly the same. I wouldn't even walk into a music store that only sold new guitars. When I go into a Guitar Center, I go to the used gear only and I prefer a Music-Go-Round any day.

    In the last 20-25 years, I have bought 2 new guitars that I can recall - a Les Paul Traditional Pro IV, because Guitar Center had a big sale on them, and a Fender James Burton red and black paisley Telecaster, because I couldn't get a used one and a local store offered me a good deal on it. In the same time, I'm sure I have bought well over a hundred used guitars.
     
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  10. burntfrijoles

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    I have to play a used guitar. I wouldn't order one from Reverb, eBay, etc from an independent seller. I might order from those guys if a legitimate, reputable retailer.
    I also never buy a guitar that has been modded.
    Today, the prices of used instruments are priced too high and offer no advantages to a new guitar unless it has specs more preferable to the buyer.
    Fender continues to put out an odd assortment of oddities and craptastic finishes so they have nothing I want at present.
     
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  11. Andy Summers

    Andy Summers Friend of Leo's

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    Thanks for the great responses folks.I can sense the passion. :)

    After the release of the Adam Jones 79 Gibson LP Custom, I am jonesing for a LP. Not that one of course. But I may get a new LP just for financing options (Sweetwater's 6 Easy Paymet Plan..don't want to do credit cards and I can't do outright at the moment.) So someone mentioned convenience here, and that's where I am at in this little adventure. I am still looking around at used ones too though...just in case. But who knows, I may end up with nothing. Or dare I say.......another Tele o_O

    Honestly though, sometimes I really just need to step away from the internet!!
     
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  12. boris bubbanov

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    I just get queasy about ordering a used guitar, long distance, only to find the fretwork is messed up in some way.

    Dave's in Wisconsin pulled this on me - and I haven't really gotten past it. "Reputable Dealer" is just sales talk.

    Only buy in person. Unless you're a happy camper when returning items. I dislike returning stuff - rather go to the dentist.
     
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    I agree Boris!! Buying used off of ebay or reverb from just some random person hundreds or thousands of miles away can be daunting. For the most part, I do my used purchases through GC, to be honest. Can order from any one of them in the country and if I don't like it, take a 10 minute drive to my local GC and get my money back. Just out shipping unless the guitar wasn't as described. I've had some luck from the "random guy" on our favorite sites, but when it does happen that you don't like the guitar, well, it kind of sucks.
     
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    My last new guitar was my first guitar...a '66 Epiphone Casino. Many, many guitars since then, all used.
     
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    Texsunburst59 Friend of Leo's

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    I ONLY buy used these days.

    The last new guitar I bought for myself was my '99 Tom Anderson Hollow Drop Classic HSS Strat.

    I'll NEVER EVER pay that much for a new guitar again.

    I will pay good money for a used guitar if I can buy it for less than 1/2 of the going market rate.

    The last Tele I purchased was an '09 Fender Highway 1 Honey Blonde I picked up for $100 at a pawnshop.

    The Tele I bought before the Highway 1 was an '86 MIJ Fender '69RI Pink Paisley Tele I scored for $600, which was also purchased at a pawnshop.

    For comparison, a new 2020 MIM Fender Player Tele is $699, and a used Player Tele is about $550+/-.

    I paid $700 out the door for both my '86 PP Tele and my '09 Highway 1 Tele, and both are going up in value.

    To ME, there's WAY more value in buying a good quality used guitar versus buying a new one.
     
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    After 60+ yrs of playing i've bought three new guitars. My first, a 59 LP Jr, 10yrs. ago a Music Man Super Sport ( wanted something with Humbucks and never liked Les Paul's) with a neck very close to my 58 Tele and a Bear Creek Weissenborn. If you know what to look for always buy used unless the instrument you want is only available new. If you're patient you'll find some great guitars and unless you're going for a vintage piece there's still guitars in closets, under the bed, in the work room etc., etc. I never personally wanted to collect guitars so my experience is with guitars that I've usually kept what I bought. Patience.
     
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    I hear you.

    Up until 2005, I'd always had kinda bad luck buying new, and excellent luck buying used from people I knew or had some contact with. (Then Katrina wiped the slate clean).

    2006-2009 I kinda went wild, but even though those were almost all new or nos guitars, virtually all were steeply discounted or blown out.

    Then, when the blowouts and closeouts stopped, by then I was assembling my own from (primarily Tommy Rosamond) parts and haven't bought "new" since then.

    Maybe I shouldn't have a vote on this thread. Can't see buying anything these days, really, as I'd have to pay twice what I was paying ten years ago. Why do that?
     
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    Once I learned how to set up and repair guitars, I lost my lust for new guitars. Hunting a good deal on a used and/or out of production guitar is much more exciting. On the off chance that I 'fill my tag', making the guitar be awesome is the next exciting challenge.

    I like looking at new guitars to see what new ideas the manufacturers have come up with or stolen from the aftermarket.

    I will admit that when the Vintera 50's Modified Tele came out, I knew I need to get one. Every spec on that guitar is perfect for me. It is the first new guitar in recent history for which I have lusted.
     
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    I always bought used gear with the one and only exception of a American Standard Telecaster I got at Guitar Center Los Angeles back in 1994 for about US$400 with the original Fender case (a real bargain). It was a nice instrument, black body with white pickguard and rosewood neck, but looked (and smelled) "too brand new" to me. 6 saddles steel modern bridge, TBS tone control, poplar body and satin neck finish in the back... A modern Tele, definitely not my style, so I sold it after a few months. No regrets at all.
     
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  20. GearGeek01

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    Buy used and let some other guy take the 30%+ depreciation as he walks out of the store with a brand new something. I love used stuff and I'm pretty darn good at knowing what prices should be and buying used when the price is below what you could sell it wholesale for. So not only buy used, but buy used when its a great deal is even better.

    - Like me paying $300 for a MINT Fender Classic Player Baja Telecaster
    - Like me paying $675 for a MINT Fender Elite HSS Stratocaster w/ all paperwork and original case
    - LIke me paying $150 for a 2011 Epiphone Les Paul Traditional with the Epi LP hard case

    The list goes on.... LOL

    I could sell each one of these for more money than I paid for them.

    Plus, if you buy low, and have a financial problem, taking the guitar to (like) a Sam Ash store and getting more than you paid for it is bonus. I found an Epiphone LP Custom for $280... sold it to Sam Ash for $350... LOL...

    You gotta develop an eye for bargains. One way to do that is to have a habit of reviewing as many palaces as possible that sell used gear. A few of my favorite spots to hand out or surf are...

    - The local Craigslist
    - Craigslist from bigger cities, especially Nashville, New York and L.A. and ask if they' ship it if you pay shipping
    - Facebook Marketplace
    - Reverb.com
    - eBay (but I don't do eBay anymore)
    - Guitar Center's "Used" section online
    - Sam Ash's "Used" section online
    - "The Tone Shop" in Addison, Texas has a great used page (Dallas/Fort Worth area)
    - Music-Go-Round's used gear online (or there may be a MGR near you)
    - Pawn shops, pawn shops, pawn shops. If there aren't any or many in your city, find a city with a military base and there will be dozens of pawn shops in a military city. Guy's ship out and sell off stuff... Fayetteville/Fort Bragg, North Carolina has about 30 pawn shops. Back when I lived in nashville, TN there were also about 30+ pawn shops around Nashville.

    The Baja Tele I got for $300 and the Fender Elite HSS Strat I got for $675 were both found at a pawn shop.

    The more you surf, the more familiar you get with current used prices.

    When I surf the net for used, I save bookmarks of guitars, amps, pedals, basses, etc, etc. I date them and type the price on them. As they are longer for sale, sometimes the price drops and you find an even better deal.

    I usually always also do lay-a-ways. Most places will do 25% down (or something) then 90-days. There is a store south of here that will do 6-month layaways. But over time interest free instead of swamping the VISA.

    Plus I prefer to play in person and I rarely buy sight unseen, sound unheard, playing not played over the Internet. Its so easy to get a dog or a dud online. I like to take it in my hands, plug it in to a common amp I am familiar with, and see if it has a "soul." If it doesn't have that "soul" to the playability or sound it goes back on the shelf and I saved myself hundreds in tweaking something I hate later trying to "fix it" by buying pickups, etc...

    Pedals are similar, but if I already know what it is and had one before, etc I might buy pedals used online. Unless it is something I have not heard or tried in person, then a test drive for pedals is in order, too. Saves buying a pedal that you find out fast you hate if you can first find it in a store.

    I love used stuff, and I've built quite the repertoire of guitars, amps, and pedals living on the dinky amount they give me for Social Security disability...
     
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