Used car shopping GRRRR!

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  1. RL52

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    I haven't owned many cars but I remember how when looking for a used car a deal to avoid was anything at/near 100,000 miles.

    So, what is with the high prices for used cars with high mileage?

    Pickups, forget about it. 15-20k+ with 100, 120,000 miles?

    While I am at it a new Ford 150, $50,000, yikes!...and it is a #1 best seller.

    "Only $500 a month"

    I saw an ad on TV for Maserati, "only $1,200 a month".

    Okey doke.

    I don't know, maybe I'll buy a bicycle, a used one.
     
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  2. Verne Bunsen

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    Debt is quite popular these days. I know guys driving $70,000 pickup trucks, I think they’re daft. My fam gets around just fine in our 2005 Toyota Sienna, thanks very much.
     
  3. Teleguy61

    Teleguy61 Friend of Leo's

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    8-10 year old vehicles, with around 100K are generally affordable.
    I find one-owners, and they've been good.
    Carfax is your friend.
     
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    What kind of vehicle are you looking for? A full-size truck?
     
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    I remember when the whole neighborhood would gather around to see one of the dads' cars turn over 100K. It used to be a big deal. Now, it seems to be the starting place for a used car.

    Most cars being built today will go 200k pretty easily, but it's worth looking at the reliability and frequency of repair records for the different models. Pretty revealing.

    IME, buying a good used car can take a couple of months of hard searching. Always get it looked at by a trusted mechanic.

    Still seems like a lot of money for a lot of miles, though.....
     
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    miles aren't as big as they used to be
     
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    Weird thing: many 20-somethings view cars as completely utilitarian. They don't long for a certain model as a sign of status or self-worth. My kid told me she wanted a red or orange car. I said, "Why, because they look like hot rods?" She said, "No, so i can spot it easily in a crowded parking lot." WTF?! I, on the other hand, want an Audi.
     
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  8. Jupiter

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    Just out of curiosity, what kind of stuff is aspirational for 20-somethings?
     
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    Last year I did a Craigslist Search that really worked for me ( just did CL as I just did not have enough $$ to buy a lower mileage Carmax or similar used dealer)
    I just decided that I would Search the following, be patient and see what happens:
    2006 to 2009 Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima
    - under 100K miles
    - 4 door, 4 cylinder
    - under $9K
    - 30 miles or less from my zip code

    This was just my way of taking control of a miserable situation ( car buying!) and at least try to focus

    As I expected the only Accords or Camrys in my range had high mileage, or too much $$, as these Search engines are broader than my criteria, but I knew that
    It took a few weeks but I got a 2009 Nissan Altima (nice upgrade model) with 89 K miles, for under $7 K!
     
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  10. RL52

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    No truck.
     
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    New, used, doesn't matter. Buying a vehicle is a terrible experience.
     
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    Paying off their student loans, and still having enough money to eat with.
     
  13. Milspec

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    The 100k miles thing is a myth these days. Engines are built to much greater tolerences and using far better oils (old ones conatained chlorine bleech that rusted the block) so that the modern engine with 100,000 miles will still have better tolerences than any brand new motor from the say the 1980's. What does matter is maintenence so any used vehicle with a solid maintenence history is a good one....miles don't matter.

    What does matter is the age of the vehicle. Transmissions of today don't wear out like the old days, but the seals go bad due to age. The end result is the same....rebuild time. Also, remember that timing belts require changing not only by mileage, but by age. You will see the maintenece schedule includes miles or age and it matters. In my family's auto shop, we saw a lot of Honda and Toyota vechicles with very low miles who had timing belt failures because although they were rarely driven, they were well past the suggested change interval based on age.

    There are many models out there that should go 250k - 300k miles on the original motor....transmissions might only be 85k - 120k miles though
     
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    When shopping, do a little research of models on this site. Really a great resource from actual owners.

    http://www.carsurvey.org/
     
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    You can get a good Toyota Corolla with relatively low miles for $10,000 or less.
     
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    Where are you finding those low mileage pickups so cheap?
    No I'm not joking.
    Also not interested in another pickup, the 81 Dodge is fine for a trip to the lumber yard or the dump. If I don't need a pickup I don't drive one.

    200,000 plus is pretty normal these days. Everybody says it's tighter tolerances but remember motor oil has improved a whole lot over the years too. Also electronic fuel injection is more accurate than carburetors so we're not contaminating the oil with extra gas, especially on a cold start. Remember chokes? And this one some will surprise a few people, we don't use lead in gasoline anymore.
    The machining probably is better now too but that's definitely not the only reason for the increased mileage. Actually it's had to be pretty good for years. A few thousands of an inch off and those old cars wouldn't have even made 100,000 miles. Pretty critical stuff really, always has been.
     
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  18. uriah1

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    Ya, odd about all the credit out there.
    Young folks first house is McMansion since someone is
    allowing them credit.
    I was lucky in last used car. I asked dealer to keep look
    out at auction, since I wanted x price and x car.
    Funny thing he found one in lot, pretty close.
     
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    I just bought a VG-condition 2004 Honda Odyssey with 156k for $1800. At that price, I figure it's good for 3-4 more years with some TLC. And I still have the 1993 Ford Ranger I bought 9 years ago for $2500... 292k and counting.
     
  20. Lonn

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    The 100K paradigm went out the window many years ago. Sold my Honda Civic running strong and looking good with 308K. My Acura TSX has 258K and runs good. My 5 year old Honda Accord has 158K and is almost as new. My wife's Infiniti Q50 Premium has 88K and may as well be a new car.
     
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