57joonya
Tele-Afflicted
Cokayne is no good for music
Unpopular opinion
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Cokayne is no good for music
Does anyone think self reflection is important? Merely the fact that one likes what they do doesn't necessarily make it worthy. Of course no one has to buy it. I just find it odd that as fine a musician as Neil Young is/was has lost his discernment. But again this is just my opinion.
NeverTooLate
Tele-Meister
I was a JT maniac for a couple years at the end of high school. Then they disappeared from my life just as they had come out of left field. But I was able to see them in the mid 1990s and that was great. Sad to hear about your experience.
I see no reason for guitar players to stop. But for singers...oh boy.
In my area, everybody who was ever a thing tries to continue till they die. I like other things, like ahem music, so I dont plan on the same trajectory, but it is not just musicians and famous people who cannot stop. Stopping can kill you if you are a one track mind and lose the stimulation and the excitement.
But singers...need another hobby. It is not impossible to make it past 60 in shape but the rock stars were rarely trained and vocal training is extremely contested area so few make it.
My favorites:
Coverdale: was fine till the early 2010s. Stiol fine studio as of 2019 but gone live by the mid 2010s.
Dio lasted very well till cancer but did let his voice go dark with age which is natural but can be preempted.
Gillan was spent by 1990 when I saw him and I unwisely listened to a post 2000 Deep Purple album and thought he was a bad joke as of 2013. His lack of vocal training and overreliance on reinforced falsetto killed his voice quickly.
Etc.
FOr fans, we think in terms of legacy. I wish Deep Purple disbanded when Jon Lord left. But the artists themselves....dont seem to care
I can only wonder what it might be like to be a successful long term recording artist.
He’s been that since he was 20.
Probably a multi-millionaire since then, too.
That has got to be where his chutzpah comes from.
He’s been proven right most of the time, too.
He was only in Buffalo Springfield for a couple of years, and has primarily been a solo artist ever since.
The C,S,N,&Y thing was a half-hearted collaboration at best, IMO.
I am charmed mostly by his songwriting.
Long may he run!
Where have I heard that before?
He was a mainstay for my crowd and me in the 70s and 80s. Poetry put to music.
Red Ryder
Friend of Leo's
They don't stop for the same reason I don't stop. I'm almost 70 and a stone mason over 40 years. Tomorrow I have my V.A. checkup with plenty of injuries to report. I will do what I do as long as I can and so will they.
I admire Mr. Young. "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" was one of the first albums I bought. Man did I identify with that! He keeps going, changes with the times, but not always in the same direction as the times. He tried to turn his gas guzzler Lincoln Continental into an electric car. He pretty much failed, but he was ahead of his time. He tried to make a music system that was digital but sounded good. Again, pretty much failed, but ahead of his time. He did Greendale when he was really supposed to be having surgery for a brain aneurysm. He was following the muse before worrying about mortality. I don't like much of what he has done since his early stuff, not much after "Rust Never Sleeps," but in my book, Neil Young is alright. Now if he would just buy Twitter and turn it into a Lionel train BBS, we'd all be alright.
Trenchant63
Tele-Holic
Neil will quit when he’s ready, forced by health and/or there is no audience for his music anymore. Until then, there is no reason he should quit just because he is of a vintage age.
aw he ain't hurtin nuthin
My wife once told me "Just because you wrote it, doesn't mean its a good song". I love a lot of Neil's work but have not listened to an new album of his in twenty years. He kind of sadly reminds me that songwriters grow old and kind of lose what it is they are trying to say. But yeah more power to him to keep going....but four albums in a year is surely excessive
Toast
Tele-Afflicted
Yeah, if you've gravitated toward boring centrism where the only music that matters is the kind that never offends anyone.
Saw BB King not too long before he died.
What occurred to me, as he was brought up to the microphone in a wheelchair, is that he was carrying on (at least in part) for his support staff, his employees and such.
Long time NY fan, but it’s become difficult to recognize any differences between one release to the next.
What occurred to me, as he was brought up to the microphone in a wheelchair, is that he was carrying on (at least in part) for his support staff, his employees and such.
Long time NY fan, but it’s become difficult to recognize any differences between one release to the next.
2HBStrat
Friend of Leo's
As long as he wants to play and people keep buying tickets....that said, the last time I saw B.B.King I was sorry I went. He was in bad shape.
Blackmore Fan
Friend of Leo's
See, I think Neil Young stopped being relevant *to me* after "Live Rust"--THAT album/live performance was EPIC. But "Trans" was a brave and entertaining effort, even if "nobody" really liked it. I still play "Sample and Hold" every year or so (including the live in Berlin video) as a reminder of what he was capable of when he wasn't murdering acoustic guitars (sorry, I can't stand anything Neil recorded with an acoustic).
Blackmore Fan
Friend of Leo's
I loved "Trans". I'm probably the only one who connected with that one.
Too much of a shock for me. But then, techno has never done it for me. Not judging. Might as well be polka.
Nightclub Dwight
Friend of Leo's
I loved Trans as well. I don't like every album he has made, but I like enough of them to look forward to hearing what he is up to lately. I think the last one that I really liked was Americana, and that was ten years ago now.
I get what the complaints are about. But there is just something so right about Neil when he hits a good one. I'm glad he's still at it.
Lowerleftcoast
Poster Extraordinaire
There's a lot of people sayin' we'd be better off dead
Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them
So I try to forget it any way I can
Neil
Keep rockin' Neil. I am still listening!
Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them
So I try to forget it any way I can
Neil
Keep rockin' Neil. I am still listening!
lammie200
Friend of Leo's
This thread is reflective of my reasons for liking jazz. One, I am predisposed to jazz more than any other form of music. It can be the right mix of evocation and complexity that keeps me engaged. I like other forms of music as well but jazz is in my southern Italian blood. And two, I feel comfortable with myself getting older and playing jazz. I have absolutely nothing against old rockers but that just ain’t me.
We went to a BB King show as well. I don’t think he was in a wheelchair but he might as well have been.
Yes maybe he wanted to keep the band working but it was awful. It was sad. We left. BB was a hero of mine and I waited too long.
