Uni-vibe and/or Phaser....need both?

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  1. bluesholyman

    bluesholyman Tele-Afflicted

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    The differences between these, when thePhaser is set right, seems so close. Maybe its just the warble (un-evenness?) of the 'Vibes waveform that distinguishes it.

    I like the Uni-vibe sound and always thought of phaser as that 80s Van Halen sound, until I started playing with one and discovered a uni-vibe-like sound in there as well as some Leslie-ish tones....

    Just curious what your thoughts are on needing both or if one will serve double duty sufficiently...
     
  2. artdecade

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    Nope. One is enough. If you need something to compliment one or the other, I would grab a tremolo that can do the brownface harmonic thing.
     
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    oddly enough, if you turn the intensity up & the speed all the way down, the harmonic trem in a Flint will get pretty close to a vibe / phase thing.
     
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    I do more country stuff, so I prefer a phase pedal for outlaw-type stuff. If I was doing more Hendrix or psychedelic stuff, I would probably lean towards a vibe. Either one would work in a pinch, but I would choose the one that most suits whatever you play more often.
     
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    It also depends how many stages of phase you are using. For instance, a Phase 45 will get really close to a Uni Vibe sound.
     
  6. 1300 E Valencia

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    Uni-Vibes were s'posed to be Leslie or rotary speaker simulators, complete with a foot controller for ramping up the speed. The Uni-Vibe *is* a four-stage phaser. It's just a bad one, as the warble is not a conscious design decision, but rather a happy accident. You could decrease the intensity of the Vibe effect so it sounds more like a "regular" phaser, but that kind of misses the point.
     
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    I like both, they are different and I use them front of dirt. Although I use the vibe much more than the phaser.
    Although, does the Internet care about my opinion? It's pretty clear than I'm not part of the in-crowd, pedal snob team.

    Spark >Phase 90> Soul Vibe> TS9 > Tonelab> Amp

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  8. Fiesta Red

    Fiesta Red Friend of Leo's

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    In my mind, all modulation is good modulation with one glaring exception: chorus.

    I just don’t dig chorus...


    On my Big Ol’ Board of Sonic Bliss is both a Leslie/UniVibe simulator (Boss RT-20 does both) and a (vintage) MXR Phase 90; there’s a fantabulous tremolo/vibrato/whatever on my amps (‘63-reissue Vibroverb and a early 70’s Gibson G-20)...I also have (off-board) a killer Danelectro Cool Cat Tremolo.

    ...and of course, I have a Crybaby wah, too.

    Although I’m considering paring down my pedals, I still want a flange...I don’t know why—I’d only use it on a couple of tunes—but I want one.

    I just can’t stand chorus...probably because it (and digital delay) were omnipresent amongst rock/Metal guitarists when I first starting playing and I got burned out hearing my bandmates aping that particular sound.

    So go get a good phase shifter and a good UniVibe and a good tremolo and a good vibrato and a good flanger and a good Leslie simulator and...
     
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    Can't personally see how a phaser and Vibe work together? But then again not really an 80s kind of guy!.... .. Love a Vibe effect ... But not a fan of running more that one Mod ( Vibe, Delay, Flanger) at a time.
     
  10. Rich_S

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    I love the Phase 90 sound and have a Phase 95 on my board, almost always set to the Script 90 mode.

    When my old high school band did our 40th reunion a few years ago, the other guitar player (a total Trower freak) insisted we do “To Rolling Stoned”. I am NOT a Trower freak, but wanted to sound similar. I switched my Phase 95 to 45 mode, played with the speed until it sounded right, an got a “close enough” Univibe sound.
     
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    I like my MXR Micro Flanger because it does a...
    sorta Phaser
    sorta Chorus
    sorta Leslie
    and something else too, oh yeah...Flanging. :lol:

     
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    Just stir the pot a bit more, let's not forget about Harmonic Tremolo, like what @KC was saying. :) I love the version of this effect in my HX Effects, usually after dirt and before delays and 'verbs.

     
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    The flint harmonic trem is all you need.
     
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    I can use a phaser in a lot of situations and styles (reggae, funk, pop), while a vibe seems to be often too much. A harmonic trem is close but I prefer to have a standard trem and a phaser, it seems more versatile to me. Of course it all depends on the material you play !
     
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    Yes, the answer is always yes. More=better, always. :D


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    To my ears and IME they are pretty different sounds. I couldn't really get a Phase 90 sound out of a Univibe or vice versa.
    I prefer the Phase tone but I appreciate a Univibe sound, just don't use it with the type music we play.
     
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    I survived that era too, and at that time felt the same way, BUT now I love chorus for the nostalgia of it. I have an old Boss CE-2 and it sounds great, and these days it isn't overdone.
     
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    phaser and univibe can do the same job but they sound completely different to me. tremolo does a very different job, evokes something very distinct to other modulations.
     
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