Ultra-light gigging amps. No, really...

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  1. LGOberean

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    Almost a year and a half ago, I said that the Vox NuTube offerings intrigued me. The models in question were the MV50 pint sized heads. At the time, the Vox NuTube Mini Super Beetle had not yet been released.

    I've test driven the MSB now several times, and it's tempting for me to just buy one. But I really don't need it since I have 3 Pathfinder 15Rs, which is still my go-to lightweight gigging amp.

    But since the PF15R has been discontinued now for a half dozen years, I'm going to suggest the MSB for the Vox candidate for lightweight gigging amp currently in production. If I didn't have my Pathfinders, I'd have already pulled the trigger on the Mini Super Beetle. It has a warm clean tone, Vox chime, nice crunch, reverb and tremolo, and weighs just 19 lbs. I think the cab's 10" speaker could be more efficient, but rig is usable, and of course the head can be paired with other cabs, or you can upgrade the speaker.
     
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    @MilwMark , I hope you are very happy with your new amp. I recently thought I'd go back to trying my Mustang, but I missed the roar that I get with my DVMark, and, you can NOT beat it for lightweight-ness of a 1X12 combo
     
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    @Jakedog and @blowtorch - the funny thing is the seller thinks it’s “enough to keep up in very small venues”.

    So I’m mildly concerned.
    If it’s only a home amp or amp living room sized clubs (plenty of those around) I’ll probably flip it.


    But my guess is it’s actually much louder than that
     
  6. blowtorch

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    ummm...
    we're talking about this one, right?
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    The DV Mark FGC121?
    NO issues with it being not loud enough, it that's the case

    It's a little confusing, in that there's been a few different Frank Gambale signature DV Mark amps
     
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    No worries about the FGC121 - it easily blows away the loudest drummer I know. It can get very, very loud.
     
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    @blowtorch and @Tele22 - the very same.

    Some folks just like to be really loud I guess.
     
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    As long as it's an FGC121 and it's functioning as it should, you will have ZERO problems in the volume department and, I don't care how big the venue is
     
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    I had a DV Mark FGC121 and did a couple of gigs with it.

    Nice amp, very loud and light, but I just couldn't bond with the tone. Sold it to a guy in Cali, he loves it.
     
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    Took me awhile to get there. For me it was specifically the mids
     
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    Can you guys elaborate?

    I find the mids to be the key to any amp now.

    And more and more I keep them quite high - 3+ o’clock. That was the secret to unlock the great sounds in the Jazz Chorus. But also in Marshalls. For me anyway.
     
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    @MilwMark , I initially had found the upper mids a bit harsh to my ear. I probably could have quite simply dialed that out with an EQ pedal, but eventually after playing with the settings quite a bit I found a good balance that worked for me
     
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    Superlight should not exclude good tone me thinks.
    I therefore recommend Supro 1606 Super.
    It has only got a 8” speaker, but sounds like a good 10”
    It is heavy for its size though: 23 lbs.
     
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    "Light weight", "Grab and go" are going to mean different things to different people. I think the size of a Deluxe reverb is the perfect definition of " light weight". I have a Tone King Sky King that weighs in at 56 pounds and has a bit bigger sized cabinet than a DRRI. But to me its a great "grab and go", amp that doesn't sacrifice tone.
    I'm 59 years old in average shape and can see my self carting this amp for at least the next 10 years.
    I do come from the era of Fender Twins, Marshall cabinets, butterfly bass bins, etc. I wouldn't want to cart any of those around at my age if I didn't have to but a 40 pound amp should be no problem unless your physically disabled.
     
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    Agreed. The FGC121 sounds awesome now that I've figured out how to dial it in right, to my ear
     
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    There's not necessarily a correlation between size and weight
     
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    I gig my Katana 100 or Pro Jr. I am aging and have back issues. Surprisingly get away with the PJ quite often.
     
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    Finally got to try the Gambale at rehearsal tonite with my LP. Really cool.

    Very low noise floor.

    Great sustain.

    Very dynamic.

    Loads of headroom/volume.

    Nice mid rich tone.

    Took me a bit to dial in the EQ. Started with BMT and Pres at noon. Nice, full tone. But a bit boomy/tubby. Loads of bass fullness and richness in the amp.

    Settled on clean channel something like: Drive 2 o’clock. Level just shy of 9 o’clock. Mids noon-1. Bass 9 o’clock. Treble amp Pres 1 o’clock. Guitar volumes on 6. That gave me a nice cleanish sound with lots of sustain and punch. Good dynamics either way with pick/fingers/guitar volume. This was loud. Louder than my Deluxe Reverb on 6-7 honestly.

    Responded very well to pedals (though with all that headroom I had to dial back the level on my SD1). I mention because some people,care about that though I find all amps seem to “take pedals well” honestly.

    Quite pleased for the price (twice that, really) and still can’t believe it’s 23lbs.
     
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    Glad your first impression is so positive. I think it sounds even better with single coils.

    Many people have mentioned it's important to use your ears to find the right settings on this amp, and not to rely on knob markings.
     
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