UFOs "We possess intact craft of non-human origin" - intelligence official

[Pokey Tele]

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I have a couple of questions about the pic:
--Where did you get that pic? From the US Gov archives via a FOIA request?
--Is his head on backwards?
--Why is he looking backwards? Because that's the only end of the ship where the visi-screen would fit?
--Is this one of the spacecraft that was secretly reverse engineered during the past 80 years?

 

[drmordo]

So you’re saying that you have a “need to know” and that since you don’t know…there must be nothing to it?
OP- don’t waste your time.
The responses above just goes to show that most people don’t WANT to know the truth.

No, my point was that the *vast* majority of what the government isn't telling you is boring as heck.

However, there are probably a couple of interesting bits in there that I don't know about. I'm definitely fascinated by what might come out of the OP's story.

 

[Pokey Tele]

I find this claim from the article very hard to believe (and it casts doubt on the whole story):

“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force."

We have good historical records of the development of all the major human-made technologies, including nuclear weapons. It seems that university classes in physics and technology would have had noticeable gaps in the development of our knowledge. If the claim in the article were true, it seems we'd have been taught, "w led to x which led to y and then a miracle happened, technology "rho" suddenly came into being (provided by the US Gov from alien vehicles?)--too far fetched.

 

[Geoff738]

Interesting take.

I ve seen enough weird stuff to think we might be visited. But most of it could have very boring explanations.

I think if we are being visited, and I think we probably are, it is drones etc. Not actual aliens.

I could be wrong.

Cheers,
Geoff

 

[Peegoo]

Pretty crazy stuff

A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.

He appears to be a credible witness rather than the usual stuff.

Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

In a Debrief exclusive, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean report that a former official says the U.S. has retrieved craft of non-human origin.

thedebrief.org

There are several things wrong with this article...one of which is the characterization of UAP. The writer calls it, "unidentified anomalous phenomena." Wrong. I could go on.

These people, e.g. Chris Mellon and Lou Elizondo, etc., both of whom I personally know from my work in the intel business, are simply making money from their former association with DoD organizations by selling lectures and tee shirts today. They got aboard with Tom DeLonge (yeah--the Blink 182 guy) because he's a UFO nut and was already heavily into social media. It was a match made in Tha Heavenz!

Think about it this way: anyone that once had access to classified info and "spills the beans" is subject to criminal prosecution. Do you think for a moment any one of these goobers would jeopardize their comfy lifestyle by compromising classified information in such a public manner?

To make this even more clear, Chris Mellon is from that family of Mellons: Carnegie Mellon--one of several think tanks that are on the USG payroll for $millions$ every year. Would he jeopardize that association? No, because he knows there are people invested in that corporation who would quickly pay someone to [ahem] make the problem go away.

They are greedy types, perfectly willing to line their pockets with money from people that want to believe...but they're not stupid.

This is like the Apollo deniers who claim we never went to the moon. There were too many people involved to keep such a potentially explosive story completely under wraps all this time.

 

[aging_rocker]

...There were too many people involved to keep such a potentially explosive story completely under wraps all this time.

Yup, I simply don't believe that any government could keep anything like this a secret for decades.

It's easier to 'believe' than to credit governments with that kind of security 'continence'.

 

[0SubSeanik0]

"In a Debrief exclusive..."

If I have info that I need to disseminate to the world, I may speak to an obscure outlet like The Debrief (why not, the more the merrier!)... but I sure as hell wouldn't give them an "exclusive" on the story, lol. That's just not rational.

 

[drmordo]

I find this claim from the article very hard to believe (and it casts doubt on the whole story):

“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force."

We have good historical records of the development of all the major human-made technologies, including nuclear weapons. It seems that university classes in physics and technology would have had noticeable gaps in the development of our knowledge. If the claim in the article were true, it seems we'd have been taught, "w led to x which led to y and then a miracle happened, technology "rho" suddenly came into being (provided by the US Gov from alien vehicles?)--too far fetched.

I skimmed the article and missed that bit. I completely agree with your analysis.

 

[String Tree]

Pretty crazy stuff

A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.

He appears to be a credible witness rather than the usual stuff.

Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

In a Debrief exclusive, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean report that a former official says the U.S. has retrieved craft of non-human origin.

thedebrief.org

And that's not all.
The Craft was found Parked Illegally in the Greater Downtown area.
Not only was the Craft whisked-away by the Feds, they Validated it's Parking Infraction.
I think they are up to something.
YEP!!!

 

[gimmeatele]

Has Steven Spielberg got the movie rights yet?

It's FROM one of his movies isn't it?

 

[Obsessed]

Our species is so gullible because of our imaginations. Let’s be honest, there is still a contingent that believe the Earth is flat.

BTW, I have not seen Sasquatch walking with his wolf-dog past our house for quite some time now.

 

[sloppychops]

Despite the legislation that supposedly protects whistleblowers, it wouldn't be too surprising if this guy commits suicide with a gunshot to the back of his head.

 

[johnny k]

Non-human origin?

Must be a PRS.

more probably a telecaster. A gift from god(s) to us. Leo didn't die, he went back to his planet.

 

[Pokey Tele]

I've been working for the government with a TS clearance for many years, and if I told you everything knew it would BORE YOU TO TEARS.

Lyric alert ^^^ --good rhyming

 

[HoodieMcFoodie]

While I dont believe aliens are flying around keeping themselves unknown, but with the billions of potential habitable planets out there, it's entirely possible that some satellite, "voyager" type science device, inadvertently got into the Solar System's, and then Earth's gravitational pull. The odds seem extremely low to me, but odd things happen. Like the bullet fired into the air hit someone standing in the street miles away....

The only problem I have with this scenario is if it were a Voyager type craft that somehow made it all this way to Earth and got sucked into our gravity, then surely it would burn up on entry as it passed through our atmosphere. For it to do otherwise and be found in a condition that allows for examination to me shows intent by the makers.

I mean if we have the maths and technology to analyse an atmosphere and calculate the correct angle of approach and velocity to make a safe landing then surely the makers of such an off world craft would have the same or similar (read: better) technology. Once again that shows intent and not happenstance.

 

[rze99]

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Where’s that image from?

 

[tery]

Some of those space cadets are TDPRI members here.

 

[bromdenlong]

Yup, I simply don't believe that any government could keep anything like this a secret for decades.

It's easier to 'believe' than to credit governments with that kind of security 'continence'.

Many governments, including ours, have kept secrets successfully for decades.

The problem with the denial of the moon landings is the existence of radio telescopes in the possession of other nation’s governments and private citizens worldwide.

During Apollo 11, radio telescopes all over the world were aimed at the Sea of Tranquillity. NASA couldn’t have hidden the fact that no one was actually there. If you and I and a bunch of our buddies owned radio telescopes back on July 20, 1969, and we all pointed our ‘scopes at the point where NASA claimed to have landed, we’d all know NASA was lying. So would the Soviets, mainland China, and every other national government unfond of the US. They would have had a field day proving the US to be liars. No way would they have passed up that chance.

Well, they could have just landed radio/TV transponders, I suppose, but the flights to land them there couldn’t have been hidden from the USSR and others. Also, optical telescopes with enough magnification could and can show the bottom halves of the landers, the moon buggies, and even the flags left behind. There is no way whatsoever to fake that. Any flight that could land and distribute all that stuff could just about as easily land men.

UFOs? Yeah, maybe. My mom saw one when she was a kid. What she described moved in a way not possible to aircraft at the time, and she’s not the type to make things up to get attention, but I know that’s not going to qualify as evidence to anyone who doesn’t know her.

On the other hand, my grandfather was on that US Air Force commission on UFOs back in 1947 or whenever it was. He told me most of it was hokum and the rest inconclusive, if I remember correctly, when I asked him about it when I was a teen. I suppose he could have been sworn to secrecy. If that were the case, though, I think he’d have said “Sorry, that’s classified” or “I don’t want to talk about it”. Then again, there’s no reason for that to be convincing to anyone who didn’t know him, either. Bother. Meh.

 

[Flyboy]

Absolute waffle.

 

[Flyboy]

Some of those space cadets are TDPRI members here.

You should see the moon units that lurk on the Rickenbacker forums.