Uber Ordered to Halt Driverless Cars on Day of SF Launch

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    Brother Jerry's old joke about the first airplane flight with no pilot:

     
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    There's tremendous unrealized humor potential in your comment.
     
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    So next biggie will be pilotless airplanes? Can you imagine the carnage? Remember the Hudson River Runway incident?

    Why stuff around with our lives on the road with "driverless" cars???

    How many people have owned a computer for 10 years which never had any sort of problem or malfunctioned in ANY way?

    DC
     
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    If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:

    1. For no reason at all, your car would crash twice a day.

    2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a new car.

    3. Occasionally, executing a manoeuver such as a left-turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, and you would have to reinstall the engine.

    4. When your car died on the freeway for no reason, you would just accept this, restart and drive on.

    5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 'Car95' or 'CarNT', and then added more seats.

    6. Apple would make a car powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would run on only five per cent of the roads.

    7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light.

    8. New seats would force every-one to have the same size butt.

    9. The airbag would say 'Are you sure?' before going off.

    10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna.

    11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary of GM), even though they neither need them nor want them. Trying to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 per cent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department.

    12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.

    13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine.​
     
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    I think the concept is dangerous. Also, how did the Lyft person just happen to shoot the Uber red light runner?
     
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    Do you really think insurance can work fairly with both robots and drivers on the road?
    Think about it.
     
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    Brilliant! You only left out the problems with getting help (We use therm very loosely) from Microsoft.
     
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    No. Robots will always get a better rate.
     
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    And not ever at fault.
     
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    I've been scared of this whole driverless vehicles on the road thing for years and no way are you taking the steering wheel out of my cold dead hands, but after reading this thread ... I have changed my mind. I have always thought and convinced that 95% or more of the drivers out there can't drive, so this whole driverless car thing is looking pretty darn good. Since they have been giving out driver's licenses like candy for half a century, this driverless thing can only be a good step in the right direction.
     
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    Agreed, human nature does not fit nicely into 0s and 1s.
     
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    There's a million things an aware human driver does as we travel along the road that a computer and sensors simply will never be able to replicate IMO. Imagine how it would handle construction cone zones, or an intersection with the traffic lights out and cop directing traffic. Or a pedestrian, who usually looks at a driver's eyes before crossing. The cars are also dependent on lane markers being very visible to sensors. One Volvo exec recently whined about the lane lines in Los Angeles not being perfect when a driverless car he was demo'ing went astray.
     
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    Right, like computers (and science) they don't make mistakes.
     
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    And yet there are probably folks on this thread who are all gung ho about going to Mars.

    The mind reels.

    "Illegals on the roads", "humans making split second decisions faster than computers", not to mention the failure to grasp the most basic idea of even driver-assist vehicles : making it nearly impossible for cars to hit other cars.

    Mike Judge is one of the greatest prophets of modern times and I'm not talking about Beavis and Butthead or Office Space...
     
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    That will actually be how they get human drivers off the roads. Insurance rates will eventually skyrocket for non-automated cars, as even if they were implemented right this moment driverless cars are already FAR safer than humans. You can bury your head in the sand and deny it all you want, but the real world is already passing you by.
     
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