Two Notes Wall Of Sound - Any Opinions?

[BackwaterJunction]

I'm at a stage in life where it is possible I move in with my girlfriend (hooray!) but that will likely come at a cost - recording will need to be a silent endeavour!

Looks like the Two Notes Wall Of Sound plug-in that comes with the Torpedo Captor attenuators could be what I need.

Has anyone on TDPRI had any experience with the plug-in, and be willing to share their opinion?

 

[tomasz]

I used the Wall of Sound for a while and it really has some nice options of blending, panning, saturating the sound or changing character from vintage to modern. You have different guitar and bass rigs, rooms, etc. I stopped using it after a while though, as it is a big plugging and so resources heavy.

Nowadays I mostly use a Neural DSP Tim Henson plugin in standalone mode for quiet jamming or tracking a d couldn't be happier. Have a look, they do 14 days trial with full features. I found it so far the best alternative to my pedalboard & amp setup

 

[BackwaterJunction]

I used the Wall of Sound for a while and it really has some nice options of blending, panning, saturating the sound or changing character from vintage to modern. You have different guitar and bass rigs, rooms, etc. I stopped using it after a while though, as it is a big plugging and so resources heavy.

Nowadays I mostly use a Neural DSP Tim Henson plugin in standalone mode for quiet jamming or tracking a d couldn't be happier. Have a look, they do 14 days trial with full features. I found it so far the best alternative to my pedalboard & amp setup

Thanks @tomasz, your comments are really helpful - particularly on resources. I'll need to check over the requirements vs my laptop! And thanks for the note on the trial - I'd totally missed that somehow and will certainly take a look in the coming days.

How did you find the plug-in soundwise?

 

[northernguitar]

I'm at a stage in life where it is possible I move in with my girlfriend (hooray!) but that will likely come at a cost - recording will need to be a silent endeavour!

Looks like the Two Notes Wall Of Sound plug-in that comes with the Torpedo Captor attenuators could be what I need.

Has anyone on TDPRI had any experience with the plug-in, and be willing to share their opinion?

Good and sort of bad. The good is there is a myriad of options, it’s a tweaker’s dream. Many cool ways to tailor your sound. It loads 3rd party IRs and is pretty easy to use. Bad is the TN IRs are proprietary and only work with TN devices. I like OwnHammer IRs best, anyway. They have all the settings (mic placement, etc.) baked right into the file, so I can just load the cab sim and rock out.

The Captor is a fantastic piece of kit. The V2 version is even better.

 

[tomasz]

It's really great, gives you basically 3 unique amps, a clean fenderish amp, a gainier British one (sounds like a Matchless to me) and an acoustic piezo simulator. There are of course selected pre and post effects with a great stereo chorus, delay and shimmer reverb. Of course you get some cabs and mics and more most notably though, the plugin takes articulation really well and is very dynamic. Take a look at Tom Quale's YouTube video, he goes deep into some details. Let me know if you like it!

Ps. The guitar on this backing track was recorded recently with only the plugin, no other reverb or effects, so if you wonder how versatile it is and if it can do country.. there you go

Country Ride

Guitar jam to backing track

on.soundcloud.com

 

[BackwaterJunction]

Good and sort of bad. The good is there is a myriad of options, it’s a tweaker’s dream. Many cool ways to tailor your sound. It loads 3rd party IRs and is pretty easy to use. Bad is the TN IRs are proprietary and only work with TN devices. I like OwnHammer IRs best, anyway. They have all the settings (mic placement, etc.) baked right into the file, so I can just load the cab sim and rock out.

The Captor is a fantastic piece of kit. The V2 version is even better.

Thanks @northernguitar - this is all useful to know. I guess it's frustrating that the IRs are proprietary, but I'm coming from a place of essentially having no existing IRs, which makes me think that it might be less of an issue for me?

I'll definitely check out OwnHammer!

It's really great, gives you basically 3 unique amps, a clean fenderish amp, a gainier British one (sounds like a Matchless to me) and an acoustic piezo simulator. There are of course selected pre and post effects with a great stereo chorus, delay and shimmer reverb. Of course you get some cabs and mics and more most notably though, the plugin takes articulation really well and is very dynamic. Take a look at Tom Quale's YouTube video, he goes deep into some details. Let me know if you like it!

Ps. The guitar on this backing track was recorded recently with only the plugin, no other reverb or effects, so if you wonder how versatile it is and if it can do country.. there you go

Country Ride

Guitar jam to backing track

on.soundcloud.com

@tomasz - the tone on that clip is great even through the speaker on my phone!

 

[northernguitar]

Thanks @northernguitar - this is all useful to know. I guess it's frustrating that the IRs are proprietary, but I'm coming from a place of essentially having no existing IRs, which makes me think that it might be less of an issue for me?

I'll definitely check out OwnHammer!



@tomasz - the tone on that clip is great even through the speaker on my phone!

My pleasure. I suppose the TN proprietary IRs aren’t a problem if you plan to exclusively use TN products. However, with so many new amps and pedals having the capability to load IRs, it’d be a shame to load up on the TN offerings. I learned the hard way that they wouldn’t load onto my Mooer Radar.

And yep, OwnHammer make some great sims. So do ML SoundLabs and Celestion. Too much fun!

 

[swervinbob]

If you’re worried about CPU, grab the Two Notes CAB M+ pedal and you basically have wall of sound in a pedal plugged in between your Captor and your interface. Plug it in via usb and you can control everything on your computer, but will have no latency issues. And you can load third party IRs and mix them if you want to.

 

[northernguitar]

If you’re worried about CPU, grab the Two Notes CAB M+ pedal and you basically have wall of sound in a pedal plugged in between your Captor and your interface. Plug it in via usb and you can control everything on your computer, but will have no latency issues. And you can load third party IRs and mix them if you want to.

I like this. But the new Captor X looks like it can do it all and a whole lot more.

 

[swervinbob]

I like this. But the new Captor X looks like it can do it all and a whole lot more.

i read the OP wrong. I thought he already had the Captor. Yes, the Captor X is the way to go. They basically merged the Captor and Cab into the same box.

 

[BackwaterJunction]

Thanks @swervinbob and @northernguitar - I'll check out the Captor X and the Cab M+. All of this is quite new to me so your insights are appreciated!

 

[swervinbob]

Thanks @swervinbob and @northernguitar - I'll check out the Captor X and the Cab M+. All of this is quite new to me so your insights are appreciated!

Like I said in my last post, the only reason to buy the CAB M+ is if you already have the Captor, or another load box without built in IRs. The Captor X is all you would need to buy, because it is the Captor with built in Wall of Sound. Everything in one box. The Captor and Captor X are fixed at either 4, 8, or 16 ohms, so make sure you purchase the correct one for your amp.

 

[northernguitar]

Thanks @swervinbob and @northernguitar - I'll check out the Captor X and the Cab M+. All of this is quite new to me so your insights are appreciated!

No problem! As mentioned, the new Captor is beyond dope. It’s a loadbox, attenuator, cab sim, IR loader, interface, headphone amp and it’s programmable with the WoS. Not cheap.

If money is an option, the V1 is quite reasonable on the used market. It has an onboard analog cab sim that’s actually pretty good. However, you would need an audio interface to use it with a computer, where you could use all the cab sims you like with the WoS. As mentioned, I use a Mooer Radar as my IR loader/cab sim. It’s a decent unit, though the Mooer IRs sound like bum. However, it will load 3rd party IRs, has good power amp sims, a good eq, and a headphone jack.

 

[swervinbob]

You just missed a sale on everything we've talked about. Everything (Captor, CAB m+, Captor X) just went back up to regular price.

 

[klasaine]

I use a Captor X. Yes, you can only load 2-Notes cabs into it but IMO their cabs are great (I use them professionally) and there are literally 100s of them. Way more than I will EVER need or use. Vintage, modern and odd-ball stuff. I primarily employ it with the 'Torpedo App' which is sort of a mini Wall-of-Sound that works on my phone.