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Twelve Strings

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by ndcaster, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. ndcaster

    ndcaster Poster Extraordinaire

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    no, not two six-strings

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    here's a Goya 410 (Japan?) in good condition that's asking for $115 and a little TLC

    I'm tempted but might want to hold out for something better

    do y'all own one?
     
  2. studio1087

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    Leo wants you to buy it. Leo is one of my favorites. 12 string puts a new twist/new tone to any old favorite song that you might play.

     
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    If I've got the story right, these were MIJ as an entry level for Levin (or something like that).

    But less than high quality maker, 12 string needing TLC = keep looking.
     
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  4. ndcaster

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    I had no idea he could sing
     
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    that's what puts me on the fence, but everything about it so far checks out, just one crack in the finish, not structural, neck nice and fat, and dried out lightweight

    strings are actually *rusty* haven't been played in 10 years at least I'll bet

    I'm going to go back with a straightedge and offer $95 willing to walk
     
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  6. Blue

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    Every serious guitar player should own a 12 string.
     
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    Not a serious guitar player right here, but I disagree

    Limited. I sold mine and would prefer a resonator
     
  8. 3fngrs

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    I had a Goya six string once. It was stolen. I remember being quite fancy for a cheap guitar.

    I don't remember how it sounded. I didn't really play acoustic guitar much back then so I suppose I don't have much useful to say.

    I'm thinking it was imported for Martin but it was a good fifteen years ago.

    Seems to me it had a laminated top.
     
  9. Deeve

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    I'm thrilled to have landed the cheapo Epi 12 (200us) and play it often enough that there's no guilt about it not being a #1.
    BUT a "needing tlc" 12 string can be more frustrating than eating lowest-bidder sliced ham (ewwww!).
    That Kottke clip blew me away - I'm glad that a 12 string can also just be used for loud strumming...
    :lol:
     
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    I bought a very cheap 12-string at a junk shop - about $30 for a German-made Klira from 1970 or so. It needed a lot more than a little TLC, but it was fun to work on it, I learned a lot, and it sounds decent. It also inspired me to build a 12-string Telecaster from a kit, and my enthusiasm for 12-strings must have been shining brightly, because a customer in whose house I was painting gave me his old Ibanez acoustic 12 which is a very nice guitar.
     
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    Make sure the neck and/or bridge aren't lifting due to the string tension - tune it up to pitch to check.

    What's the action like? if high, is there enough saddle material showing so it can be sanded lower?

    Is there a good break angle over the saddle?

    These are all additional to the checks you should carry out on any acoustic guitar. If any problems show up, give it a miss or you may as well have thrown your money away.
     
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    Somewhere sometime, I read that he didn't like to sing because he thought that his voice sounded " like a duck farting in the mud."

    However I always thought of him as being a good singer.
     
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    Back in the 70’s I bought a matching set of Framus 6 string and 12 string from a guy who bought them in Germany.
    I never connected with the 12 string even though it was not my first experience with a 12 string.
    I can certainly see an acoustic player having a 12 string to play when needed, but not as my primary guitar.
     
  14. ndcaster

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    you could do something like this:



    if you watch this, you'll see familiar shapes from guitar strings 234
     
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    Some Goyas are OK; that one isn't. The world is full of excess 12 strings being shed by their owners now that there's so little use for them. I'd recommend a Guild from the 70s, though with those, like all 12s, you need to make sure the one you're looking at isn't too far down the road to self-destruction, since 90% of the older ones are messed up -- weak and underbuilt to begin with, and deforming with age.
     
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    I had an Epiphone 12 string that I bought when i was 17 (1973). It was made in Japan. Great guitars as they sound so full and have a mandolin effect with the octave high strings. That and my original Epiphone Texan got me a lot of work.
     
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    Really? I mean, I know his claim to fame is his playing, but you've never his version of "Pamela Brown"?

     
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    Neither did Leo.
     
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    I love 12 stings. For under a $100? If it's stable and the neck isn't bowed, what's there to lose?

    I have a Taylor from the '80's that is an amazing guitar. I sometimes pull it out to use instead of a 6 string, especially for solo gigs.
     
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    I'm also not convinced by 12 string emulator pedals, so there's that
    nope, I only heard of him in the 90s when he was thrown in the same bin as Michael Hedges

    that's a great tune!

    (fwiw, I married Pamela Brown)
     
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