tweed cleans

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  1. Unpossible

    Unpossible TDPRI Member

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    Just now interested in tweed amps, but not for the usual reasons.
    Already have a blackface and play clean.
    Played a tweed the other day and really like the cleans.
    Want to add second amp to complement my blackface deluxe reverb. Similar output and headroom.
    And hopefully not a giant beast of a box.
    Where would i start?
    thanks

    Also; open to clones
     
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  2. SoK66

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    A good match with a BFDR is the 5F4 2x10 Super. An original would be idiotic expensive, but there are numerous clones out there. Dialing in cleans on a tweed requires patience and getting to know the blended Volume and Presence controls.
     
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    Get a Quilter. Fits on a pedalboard. Surf setting is blackface. Tweed is well, tweed (supposed to emulate early open-backed tweeds). Lead is a sweet Marshall JCM 2000 lead channel emulation.
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    ^^^^What Bluego1 said:cool:^^^^
     
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    With the grand daddy of them all and still the best amp ever made:

    Tweed Deluxe.

    The classic recipe for killer cleans is tone at 7,used channel vol. just a hair above 2 ,unused Ch.vol at 3.

    Add a hefty speaker,my personal fave is the 40 watt ceramic Tone Tubby, but any 40+ watt speaker will do, and you are in business.
     
  6. Alamo

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    5F11 Tweed Vibrolux
     
  7. Unpossible

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    "Get a Quilter. Fits on a pedalboard. Surf setting is blackface. Tweed is well, tweed (supposed to emulate early open-backed tweeds). Lead is a sweet Marshall JCM 2000 lead channel emulation."

    Thanks for that.
    I do have a quilter 101 and is really great, but is just not quite there for me.
    I realize most people couldn't hear much difference with their eyes closed, especially in a band situation. I will bring it back out and play with it some more.

    And thanks for the tweed deluxe and vibrolux suggestions.

    Probably wouldn't want to bring an original out, maybe i'll build or buy a clone.
     
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  8. Bluego1

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    Now, fire up some chorus and reverb and light up some Sloop John B. Go.;)
     
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  9. Ess Eff

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    Maybe a bit big for you but glorious cleans. ..
    Vintage Twin Amp, 40w.
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    It doesn't matter what other people can't tell with their eyes closed. The only experience that matters to you is yours. Can you tell with your eyes closed? If so, then the point is moot.
     
  11. Dukex

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    I like the cleans on my Lil Dawg 5e3 D-Lux. Like the overdrive, too.

    Lots of great tones come out of this box. Twist them knobs!:D
     
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    5G9 Tremolux or Bassman for clean, the Tremolux is about 20 watts and the Bassman is 40. Bassman clones and reissues will be more available, the Tremolux would probably need to be custom.
     
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    I prefer the cleans from my Lil Dawg deluxe over my DRRI. Very rich, mid focused tone with plenty of bottom end and a good dollop of sparkle on top.
     
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    Gorgeous big fat cleans on my 5E3. Bright channel, tone on 12, normal channel volume 0, bright channel volume around halfway up. Back off the guitar volume to get into the cleans.
     
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    Dig my 5f11.
     
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    I like the cleans from my 5E5-A Tweed Pro.

    Like you, I'm a blackface guy, play clean. I wanted some tweed *cleans*, not the usual crunch associated with it.
     
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    Harvard or Vibrolux for a little stiffer and a touch more headroom. 1x10, 10-ish watts (but plays a little louder to me).

    Deluxe or Tremolux for a little less headroom, a little more sag. 1x12, 12-ish watts. (interactive volumes can bring on the drive a bit faster)

    Pro, Super or Bandmaster, for a little bit more volume. 1x15, 2x10, 3x10, 28-ish watts.

    Bassman for a really nice clean. 4x10, 45 watts.

    A low powered Twin would be nice, too. Similar to the Pro, Super Bandmaster... But, 40 watts and 2x12.


    All have good cleans. All a little different. I honestly think the mid-powered Pro, Super or Bandmaster might be your best bet to match up volume wise with a Deluxe Reverb.

    I have a 5e3 Deluxe, a Bassman and a high powered Twin (80 watts). I tend to play the Twin the most, even at home. But, I am also willing to lug a 45-ish pound amp around. I will grab the 5e3 for a quick jam. But, if I'm gigging it's either the Bassman or the Twin, for sure. They all sound different. They all have their own thing. Each different enough for me to easily justify keeping all of them.
     
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  18. Wally

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    if your DR is a vintage BF and all-original, you might not want to do this...but all of these mods are reversible. Any two channel Fender Reverb amp can have two very different channels...with one of them leaning into that tweed world sonically. Voila...two amps in one package.
     
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    Tweed Bandmaster 5E7 clone. A bit pricey even for the clone but there is something about a 310 with 26 Watts that sings like The Angels or The Sirens in The Odyssey depending on where You set Your knobs. Since hearing a Weber Clone 5E7
    over 20 years ago I’m still lusting for one.
    5E7 - She’s the one that’ll do it all and sound better doing it too.

    The two figures You can associate the 5E7 with are:
    SEABISCUIT The Racehorse.
    Sugar Ray Robinson The Fighter.

    “Who’s Next” & “China Grove” come to mind.

    I’d take a 5E7 over everything that has ever been regardless of price tag. It doesn’t matter.
     
  20. scelestus

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    I think if you run the BFDR at its highest clean settings, the medium tweeds aren't going to compete. I think you'd have to go to a Super, Pro, Bandmaster, etc. to get cleans as loud as a BF Deluxe. If you run the BFDF on 2, a tweed Deluxe, Tremolux, Harvard, or Vibrolux might be enough.

    I'm not an amp tech or anything, this is just based on my experience.

    Edit: I didn't mention the big boys because they're a lot to carry, but Twins and Bassmans (Bassmen?) are awesome.
     
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