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Tweaking poop height on ASAT Special

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Digital Larry, Nov 22, 2020.

  1. Digital Larry

    Digital Larry Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    I just got an ASAT Special Tribute off Reverb.

    When it came in I went off to try it out and the bass was way too boomy. Then I cranked the neck poop as far down as the screws would go, which helped.

    Next I'm trying to get a nice difference between the neck and middle settings. Now for comparison I am using my Peavey Reactor which has a nice set of Cavalier dual tapped poops. The neck on this guitar is (I guess) typical Tele neck with almost no inherent brightness. When I switch the Raptor to middle position I get a really nice sound with warm bass, scooped mids, and clear highs.

    On the ASAT on the other hand, the neck poop is already quite bright, and the effect of going to the middle setting is more subtle. I raised the bass side of the neck poop until it started to get out of control, then I took it down half a turn. Well, I could keep doing this for a long time but without a strategy I think it's going to get frustrating.

    The other thing I noticed is that the difference between neck only and middle seems to depend a lot on the settings of my modeler. The only thing that makes sense there is some settings may already scoop out a lot of mids and so the difference is not so noticeable.

    I also attempted to turn some of the individual pole pieces with an Allen wrench and they seemed pretty hard to turn, so I gave up.

    I think one approach might be to record something into a looper and then do the height adjustments in real time so I can instantly determine "getting better" vs. "getting worse".

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. suave eddie

    suave eddie Friend of Leo's

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    Is "poop" the new name for pickups? Am I hopelessly out of touch?
    This is reminiscent of a former member who delighted in intentional misspellings and misnaming of gear.

     
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  3. gregulator450

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    Your ASAT poops? How much extra does that feature cost? :lol:

    Jokes aside, have you played with your amp settings, and does your guitar have the bass cut that many g&l's have?

    In my experience with pole piece adjustments the screws always feel stiff. Keep playing around with them. Also, I like to make pickup adjustments with a clean, un-effected sound on my modeling amp. If I get it good there, it usually sounds good through with effects.
     
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  4. Digital Larry

    Digital Larry Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    Yes, it's my particular affectation as I can't bring my self to say... "pups". I'm not expecting it to catch on.
     
  5. suave eddie

    suave eddie Friend of Leo's

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    The ASATs do not come with the PTB (Passive Bass and Treble) system.
     
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    Gotcha. I stand corrected.
     
  7. Digital Larry

    Digital Larry Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    This one doesn't have the bass roll off, but that's not my biggest problem. The issue mostly at hand is trying to get more distinction between neck and middle settings by getting more of a mid cut. I'm almost always using a clean sound anyway, I was referring mostly to amp model selection, EQ settings, cabinet.
     
  8. telemnemonics

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    Uh, too high and it splashes on your feet?
     
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    Is this a clickbait thread title? I can’t decide.
     
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    I just say "pickups" as I was taught it's not nice to abbreev-shame.

    ... What?
     
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    I have an ASAT, but I don’t like to play around with my poop height, I usually just let it lay however it wants to lay.
     
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    Man, that's a tough one. Sorry I couldn't be of any good help.
     
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    Boomy is what you get when you set the pickups the same distance from the low E as from the high E.

    Makes no difference what that height is, you still get more bass that needed to balance the overall eq.

    Lower both pups under the low E and raise both p'ups under the high E.
    Best to set the bridge pickup height first and make it pretty high, since otherwise the bridge pkp will not be as loud due to the neck transducer being too high.
     
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    Buncha sensitive old farts here who I suppose lost their lawns, are too blind to see clouds, and have to yell about grammar or kids today!
     
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    This thread isn't what I thought it would be about...
     
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    I set my neck two pepto bismols high and the bridge four pepto bismols high.
     
  17. Cam

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    Guitar poops. I like it. Also makes me think of peg leg pirates with shoulder parrots. I'm off to check out my ASAT poops. Bring on the poop I say. I still have a lawn too.
     
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    telemnemonics Telefied Ad Free Member

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    WTH is wrong with you?

    Capitalize and hyphenate!
     
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    Imagine going to a club to try out your "poop lines."
     
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    Seriously though I experimented with height and tilt angles on my ASAT to get it where I liked what I heard. Haven't played it for a while. Thanks for the reminder to check it out. ASATs are great guitars.
     
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