Turtles...inquiring minds

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  1. SnidelyWhiplash

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    Nope. Wrong band. Chas was in the Animals.
     
  2. SnidelyWhiplash

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    If someone used your intellectual property without your permission, you'd sue also.
     
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    Jim Pons, bassist of the Turtles, was a member of Zappa’s band for a little while.
     
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    Only if they had made a bunch of money from my IP. But, that wasn't the case here. De La Soul merely used it as part of an interlude (about a minute long) between tracks. It wasn't a successful DLS single, or even an actual song. People didn't buy the De La Soul album to hear this sample. The Turtles weren't recovering any losses. It was strictly punitive. A classic grumpy-old-man move. Nothing, at all, like the Verve/Andrew Oldham situation, wherein the sample WAS the song.
     
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    One big problem is, if the owner of intellectual property lets one infraction go, they have no standing for subsequent offenses. Best example is how Disney will go after every rinky-dink child care facility for having cartoon characters on their walls. Like it or not, that's the only way they can protect their property against more egregious violations. . :(
     
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    Yup....my bad
     
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    Yes, I do understand your point about precedent. And granted, the law, obviously, allowed for it. I guess this one especially irked me because the Turtles didn't even write the song (penned by Roger McGuinn and Gene Clark), to begin with.

    p.s. This was the first ever lawsuit over a sample. Did I mention "grumpy old man"? ;)

    Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming. Apologies for the detour.
     
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    Of course I can't be sure but this seems to be a case of some TV producer watching a rehearsal and saying "That guy on the end? We can't have him just standing there and singing if he's not the lead singer. Get him a tuba or a trumpet or something. "
     
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    I hope that French horn didn't get dented.
     
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    Not only did it get Dented, it Sued for damages.
    They settled out of Court as to not elicit any bad Publicity.
     
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