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Turnaround Tip

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by Hpilotman, Oct 24, 2020.

  1. Hpilotman

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    Playing Blues shuffle in E when descending from the 1 to 5 [ E to B7 ] Instead of making traditional B7 Chord play a B7#9 [ Pinky on D note instead of F# ]
    I use this chord as emphasis for the descending riff.

    https://www.guitartabsexplorer.com/chords/b7sharp9

    Sharp #9 chords were a favorite of Hendrix


    Troy Dexter- Professional player - applies this chord to the end of a rockabilly style turnaround.

    [ 9:00 -9:10 Marker]

     
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  2. JRapp

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    Nahhh...too generic.
     
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    You could try a B13 for something with flavor that doesn't channel Hendrix. 13 works well for V chords.
     
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    How about using the phrygian chord? Mix it up a little, guys.

     
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    Dude---it's a blues shuffle. Ya know; Jimmy Reed, Eddie Taylor, Jimmy Rogers, Magic Slim, etc etc etc. Play the bag or go home and learn Giant Steps.
     
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    #Sad
     
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    What's sadder is when misguided people play like Steve Vai on a Haggard tune, like Joe Pass on a Bill Monroe song, or throw in their latest YTube lesson on 60s Wayne Shorter in a Lightnin Hopkins tune. It's a genre just like anything else. Some things fit, others don't. Also sad is the fact that you will never get a gig playing that music stuffing in random bits of 20th C. harmonic devices. Nobody wants to hear it. Capiche?
     
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    Well, good luck in the burgeoning hotbed of modern improvisational genius known as British Columbia. Keep practicing for your semi-annual gig at the Moose Lodge. Bye...
     
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  10. Hpilotman

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    I like to finish last beat with the 1 on [13] Stole it from Pete Anderson
    Key of G = G13

    Check the ending.

     
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    Jrapp, please try to keep things civil, there is no reason to attack anyone personally here, this is all about music. Danny Gatton did all kinds of jazz things in his country Tele soloing, if it sounds good and you play it like you mean it you can do anything you want. In any jam session there is always room for the unexpected, if done well it turns heads and catches people by surprise.
     
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    @JRapp

    Go to bed you grump.
     
  13. Hpilotman

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    I saw Merle Haggard in person in 1982 and he had one of the best [if not the best ] Rhythum Guitar Players ever sitting in a straight chair directly behind him.[ Eldon Shamblin ] He was using a different chord voicing on every beat and it sounded great. Merle also had horns with him on stage and they fit in well on Haggard Tunes.
    Got to color outside the lines sometimes.

    Here he is playing with the Texas Playboys.



    "Shamblin's lead guitar work was such that in April 1941 Metronome magazine called him the most creative and inventive guitarist since the discovery of Charlie Christian and the best white guitarist with the greatest flow of fresh ideas like Charlie played. They acknowledged Eldon as an emulator of Christian's style and made the distinction that he was an innovator and not an imitator of Charlie's style. Thirty years later a Rolling Stone editor wrote a piece on him called "Eldon Shamblin - the Greatest Rhythm Guitarist in the World" hailing Eldon for his creativity, solidity and echoing Metronome magazine's much earlier assessment. Similarly, Down Beat acknowledged Eldon's legendary status as a major contributor to the world of guitar noting he was jazz oriented and a swing musician albeit working in Western swing and country bands, particularly Merle Haggard who was on the cover – a first for the publication, granting a country artist the coveted cover issue."
     
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    Getting personal over chords?

    This is like the anti-Glock fanboiz on all the firearms boards.

    Go with what works for you. There's no right or wrong in music.
     
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    Tut, tut, all I'm saying is don't be afraid to try something new. No need for ad hominem attacks.

    The "Phrygian chord" yields a variation on the iv I cadence, which is old and venerable and won't scare the horses. If you put a iv chord over a V bass (sneaking the minor plagal iv I cadence on top of the standard V I) you get the sound in question.
     
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    Thank you for the video! Eldon is an inspiration to watch. I would add Jerry Reed, Chet Atkins, and Hank Garland as country guitarists who brought jazz style turnarounds into country songs and nobody complains about them either.
     
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    B7#9 or B13? B13#9!

    xx1234
     
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    Why stop there? Try something new. Get real esoteric and play something like B13sus4b5.
     
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    tell that to Guthrie Govan . ..
     
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