Trussrod - to grease/oil or not?

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  1. Slowtwitch

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    Is it needed to grease or oil the threads of a trussrod to keep smooth operation before embedding it for life?

    If so, which is prefered?
     
  2. guitarbuilder

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    If I made a steel rod with a steel block, I might. I personally haven't on the Stewmac truss rods, but did take one out of a neck to reuse it and IIRC, it was oxidized. A drop on the threads might be OK. I'd be concerned about either oil or grease migrating to the wood. Wax could be on option or a dry lubricant.
     
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    Didn't think of wax, that could be a good option
     
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    What about something like Neo-Lube? It's colloidal graphite suspended in isopropanol alcohol. Brush on wet, alcohol evaporates, leaves an extremely thin coating of totally dry graphite over every bit of the threads. It is truly great stuff. I became acquainted with it working in nuclear power plants in the navy, where we used in on various threads in the plant (largely steel alloy valve caps with acme threads, which are strong as hell and have very tight tolerances, but are prone to seizing).

    Purchase: https://www.micromark.com/Neolube-2-fl-oz-

    More detailed description: http://www.newmantools.com/chemicals/neo2pds.htm.
     
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    I would use beeswax.
     
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    be very careful there is raw wood in there... grease and oil will soak into the wood... to much and it will cause lacquer etc to peal off the neck and cause visible stains.

    rk
     
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    That‘s why Beeswax is my recommendation. A tiny bit (!) is enough!
     
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    Okay, but do you guys actually put on anything or not?

    What's the industry standard?
     
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    When I tap my threads, the rod theads already have some tap oil on it from the process. I suspect that all the truss rods are cut with some lubricant and unless they remove it, there should be some residue.
     
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    yeah, prior to installation, a little dab 'il do ya... I'll take CA and seal the channel around the area to keep any lubricant from migrating into the wood..


    r
     
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    Bubblehead as well?
    That stuff is the real deal...I use it in my automotive shop;never occurred to me to use it on truss rods.
     
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    I've never installed one, but my first instinct would be to use something that stays put. Oil flows, so might not be ideal. Grease, graphite, teflon???
     
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    I never put anything on them. Silicone grease might be something to think about ( not the spay lube)
     
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    A drop of 3in1 oil directly on top so it goes in the threads. That's it.
    Before it goes in ?Maybe some dab of white grease or something.
     
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    The truss rod was very stiff and creaky in a $25 garage sale guitar I got. I squirted a liberal amount of some ancient Smash™ Penetrating Oil I had on hand into the general area of the nut. Rod turns great now. Don't try this at home.
     
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    I have never used it on a truss rod; it was just an idea that came to me when I heard the question and considered that a dry lubricant would be ideal.

    Yes, I was a nuke mechanic on fast attacks – U.S.S. Springfield, 2001-2005. Joined the boat just in time for the opening salvoes of Operation Enduring Freedom, and got out with her in dry dock. Before that I was a nuke student, and then a nuke teacher for two years at NPTU Charleston. I was burned out and wanted to do something different with my life, so all I did was the 8 years active, no reserve (my 6+2 from my initial enlistment were converted to 8+0 when I became staff at NPTU).
     
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    Looks like I'm in the minority here, but that's O.K. :).

    After encountering a seized-up nut on a Strat many moons ago, I've always lubricated the threads on truss rods.

    It doesn't take much, just one small drop of something like 3-in-1. Or if you disassemble, a little smear of some grease like SuperLube.

    I've never noticed any detrimental effect to the finish or anything else; just smooth action when tweaking the truss rod.

    I can't imagine myself assembling a neck without making sure the truss rod threads are lubricated, especially with a modern 2-way rod where ya got two threaded connections. Or more, like in the case of the Gotoh side adjust system.

    Old habits die hard. I'm just a old-time mechanic with a full lifetime of experience :).





    Best Regards,
    Geo.
     
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    Make sense to me!:)
     
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