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True Detective Season 2 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by stealyerface, Jun 22, 2015.

  1. stealyerface

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    Uhh.. Okay.

    ***Possible Spoilers***

    While last season's TD gripped me right from the opening scene, and had me salivating for Sunday Nights, last night left me shaking my head and wondering how many times I was going to need to re-watch this premiere to follow along with the characters and the story.

    Once again we see the policemen that have some major history and issues, one with a background of violence and drinking, and another with some repressed sexual problems, that are compounded with her sister being on the opposite end of that spectrum. Pretty easy to see that their father, hiding out in a rehab clinic-spiritual cleansing gig, is going to have some part of that.

    Vince Vaughn should turn out to be awesome as a bad guy, and there are going to be some interesting interactions with him and the Colin Farrell cop character.

    Not sure about the motorcycle cop who was suspended... Laden with Viagara and a bad attitude he stops just short of driving over the ravine on his bike, to find the body of whom I assume is Vaughn's partner, who missing from the big business meeting? Not sure if the mbike cop's girlfriend is the missing person from the photo?

    So did Farrel's cop beat up the newspaper writer who wrote the article on the crooked business dealings, and then get an envelope of money from Vaughn in return? Why is Vaughn angry with the business guy, who he claims already had orally confirmed a contract on the rail system, but is backing out til futher notice? Whose house are the cops going through, with all the po*n everywhere? Is that the dead guy?

    The McAdams cop busts the website house, but it she there only because she knows her sister is working there, or was that a surprise?

    Farrell beats the tar out of the father of the kid who is suspected in the shoe theft, but it sure seemed like there was some more intent there, than just the missing shoes. That poor fat ginger kid of his is destined for some tough times, and is it possible that Farrell see's him as his kid, but he is possibly not blood-related?

    I am going to watch it again, but it surely did not flow as freely, and with the cinematic perfection as season 1. The scenes were choppy, and convoluted, and it was really hard to follow along... at least for me.

    Anyone else have some troubles with Episode 1, and notice anything foreshadow-wise, that looks to be something interesting to keep an eye out for in the next episodes?

    ~syf
     
  2. igore67

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    Well I told the wife halfway through the show I had no clue what was going on, probably try watching again tonight.

    I agree there's no real indication as to what main story line will be.
     
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    well, i haven't seen it yet, but i'm sure all the confusion is deliberate. to keep you coming back, seeking clarification.
     
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    I felt really let down by that episode. It's trying way too damned hard to be dark and sinister when nothing of the sort happened at all in it. So far the only inkling of a plot seems to be the missing comptroller or whatever.
     
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    I agree 100%

    I mean, we had Woody Harrelson's character already with booze trouble in last year's season, and now we have our new cop sitting in his patrol car swigging bourbon before he puts on some brass knuckles and beats up a guy because of his son??

    I understand the back story has to be hashed out for each character, but at least stay on the path of the storyline...

    Maybe after I see it again, I'll fill in the pieces, but it should not be that hard to follow along a season premiere.

    ~syf
     
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    Yes, it seemed forced to me, though it did get better towards the end. "motorcycle cop" is dating the missing woman, and needs the Viagra for previous injuries? Collin's character is in deep with Vince, since they have a history, and Farrell's character got the dead business guys' laptop and paperwork, before he and his partner showed up to "officially" search the place - without a warrant. The dead guy's apartment was filled with "exotic" fetish imagery, and I'm sure the "website" house plays into all that somehow as well. It did a good job of laying out each of the complex characters, but like you I have no idea where it's going. Like the previous season, it probably won't even be clear until the season finale.
     
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    @stealyerface

    Didn't Farrell’s character say that the child was his ex-wife's but she was raped by somebody? When asked if the guy was brought to justice he got uptight and fidgety, almost alluding to him having carried out the “justice” in a “country-style” manner.
     
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    I kind of liked it. It has that pulpy, noir kind of thing going. And I wasn't at all confused about the characters and what they were up to.
    By the way, the dead guy is the city manager who went missing. It was his house where they found all the weird stuff.
    My problem, so far, is that the writing doesn't seem as sharp as season one. I know it's only been one episode, but still...
    And it lacks the wit and humor of season one.
    I'm willing to give it a chance. It was the first episode and some expository stuff was necessary. But, again, one of the things that made season one so good was the interplay between Rust and Marty and the humor that that brought to the table.
    Another thing was the direction of season one, by Cary Fukunaga. The director who did the first episode tried to match his atmospheric sense, but, in my opinion, missed the mark.
     
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    Ahh.. good catch. Nice job by Farrell to make it tough to decide if he was upset because the bad guy was never caught, or upset because he was indeed caught, but not by the authorities...

    I suppose if he would inflict so much damage on a guy over a pair of LeBron sneakers, what happened to the rapist will be revealed later, and I can assume it will not be good.

    ~syf
     
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    I'm trying real hard not to set the bar too high. Last season was so good it will be hard to match. This season does seem off to a slow start, but I'm sure they are just setting the table. I'm sure it will take several episodes to decide where I am at with season 2.
     
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    Yes, I am not sure that Rachel McAdams is quite on par with either Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson.

    In fact, I am sure she is not. And although the opening scene with her walking around in her underpants was nice, I am not sure that is going to keep me interested all season.

    Speaking of which, what kind of kinky nonsense do you figure her boyfriend/boytoy was talking about in that scene? Certainly they are alluding to her repressed (or so it seems) feelings towards that stuff, which they backup in the scene with her sister, but perhaps there is more to the onion as we peel it away.

    Her dad has some secrets we are going to discover before too long...

    ~syf
     
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    The people that run Vinci are crooked and Frank Semyon (Vince Vaughan) is the resident head gangster/crook. He gave money to the missing city manager named Caspere for the purchase of property along the proposed rail route, but the guy turned up dead. So the show will be driven by the questions of "who killed him?" and "where is the money?," along with a lot of personal conflict.

    I am not optimistic that this season will be as good as the first season.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...ec6416-12b6-11e5-9518-f9e0a8959f32_story.html
     
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    Glad Im not the only one who wasnt quite sure what was going on. I'll no doubt watch it again before next episode.
     
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    I would definitely say the season premier pales in comparison to the series premier from last year.
     
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    This new season is very Raymond Chandler. If you have missed Bogart in "The Big Sleep", see it. That plot, too, is nearly incomprehensible, but has similar noire atmospherics. (Los Angeles is one the main characters.)
    William Faulkner wrote the screenplay.
     
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    I don't know, I thought it was pretty damn good. The characters and their overiding issues are laid out right from the start and the pacing was awesome. The first scene,where Velcoro and his boy are parked in front of the school, the car motor idling created this ominous drone behind the dialogue. Really liked that!
    The unifying link between everybody is, of course, the eyeless City Manager Casper (sic).
    I think this is going to be an awesome ride.
     
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    Good comparison. There is a story about that film that kind of sheds some light on the nature of the plot. It was said that director Howard Hawks was working with Faulkner's screenplay and at one point, it is mentioned that a character was killed. The screenplay didn't say by whom or how and Hawks asked Faulkner, who said it wasn't in the book. So Hawks asked Faulkner to call Chandler and ask him who killed this character and how.
    He did, and Chandler said he had no idea and that it didn't matter.
     
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    I suspect motorbike guy is struggling to come to terms with his sexuality - hence the Viagra and the look of disdain on his face haha. He could also be linked through this point to the dead city planner guy he found - the one with the house?!

    I agree that it's going to be hard to beat the first season, but let's hope it does!
     
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    Just watched episode 1... I'm in.

    Not the Leonard Cohen song I would have chosen for the theme... but hey, what do I know?

    Why has no one mentioned the shot of the Maltese Falcon on the car seat????
     
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    I watched it twice already. While I've already contemplated that it might not be as good as the first season, I'm hanging in and giving it a shot. Looking forward to it, actually.
     
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