Tried out Bullet strats at local store

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  1. RoCkstAr256

    RoCkstAr256 Tele-Afflicted

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    I really liked these, seems like Indonesian ones are much better than previous chinesse i have tried. Only thing that bothers me are Tuners? What tuners can be installed into bulllet strats ? Also i have to order guitar online, local store has only Sunburst color. I want white one
     
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    bgmacaw Friend of Leo's

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    Get the nut right before changing the tuners.

    While most import sealed/locking tuners will fit the holes without reaming, the screw placement is different. You'll need to drill small pilot holes and lubricate the tiny screws to get a good fit. You don't want to strip or break off a screw head.

    I recently bought a set of $15 locking tuners on EBay (many Chinese sellers have them) and they work well. I've also tried several sealed tuners in the $7 to $12 range. All have been good.
     
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    The MII's are 'high manufacturing quality', repeatability from guitar to guitar is great. They slavishly follow the Fender spec on the neck carve though -- Where some of the MIC necks were chunky, all the MIIs have been skinny (width and depths reported are about the same 0.5 to 1.0mm difference maybe) but the carve starts from the leading edge of the fretboard instead of behind the glue line. Then deep carve.

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    musicalmartin Poster Extraordinaire

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    Its rarely the tuners even very cheap ones .
    i just bought a 6 quid set on ebay to replace the originals on my recycling plant find so called 70's pre lawsuit "Les Paul" to replace ones that really are awful and indeed notorious .Now they keep great tune but I am careful to pull /wrench my strings a few times to bed them in and also make sure the nut isnt sticking .Of course on strats with a wobbly tremmy bridge the skies the limit when setting it up right as most aint out of the box .
     
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    I got a white hard tail bullet strat earlier this year. I'm still on the fence about replacing stuff like tuners, because the guitar tuned up perfectly right out of the box and even with bending it doesn't go out of tune much. I am the type to try putting graphite or even lip balm on the nut before replacing tuners, especially since I read replacements for the bullets are not plug and play (need to drill new screw holes like bgmacaw said).

    Try putting pencil graphite on the nut slots and see how it holds tuning from there.
     
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    The MII Bullets are great quality in fit and finish. There are two impediments to tuning happiness.

    1. The nut is a soft plastic. On these guitars the slots are usually OKish, but could use some fine tuning. Filing the slots of a late model Bullet nut is like filing hard cheese: you can feel the material "drag" on the file. Once you get the slots where you want them, lubing the slots is beneficial (and I don't usually recommend using any lube).

    2. The tuners are junk. They hold tune as well as any other tuner as long as you string them right: tuners, no matter how cheap, have at least a 14:1 ratio and don't unwind under string tension. They are sloppy, however, with a lot of lash in the gears. Take them off, pop the covers off, take out the screw that retains the larger gear, rinse all threads with naptha, let them evaporate and wipe the threads, put a drop of Loctite Blue (not red!) on the screw, put in the screw and tighten until you've removed as much slop as possible, yet the tuner still works easily. Put up with that until you put on a $25 set of vintage-style, split shaft tuners that are quick and easy to string. You'll need to drill new screw holes for the new tuners. I don't remember if you'll need "conversion" bushings, or if your existing bushings will work.

    Overall they're a lot of bang for the buck. The pickups and electronics aren't stellar, but they get the job done and a good amp will make a Bullet sound great.
     
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    Thanks guys for all the info i will remember things about tuners and nut. Im giving it a try, purchased it just for 475 Polish zlotych which is 125 USD
     
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    IT arrives tommorow !
     
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    Is it in your hands? Review please!
     
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    saw these new hard tail bullets at the music store and im planning to get one as a workhorse/jam guitar. hows the build quality of these?
     
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    Its good i would say, check fo Indonesian One made 2017/2018 since they have new tuners. Only thing i dont like is that they are thinner. Pickups are biggest wow, they sound good for 125 $. This is my guitar for jam sessions

    http://www.tdpri.com/threads/ngd-squier-bullet-strat-ht-arctic-white.944119/
     
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