Trade Epi Trad PRO for Guild Starfire or Supro Black Holiday

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by waltschwarzkopf, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. waltschwarzkopf

    waltschwarzkopf Tele-Meister

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    Hi guys,

    This is a quick one:

    My Epiphone Traditional PRO is on sale for the same price that I bought it used, I like it and I play it occasionally; but I also have two more Les Pauls, an Epi Custom and a Gibson Studio. It’s on sale because I found out that 4 Les Pauls was too much (I already sold another) so I rather have the cash for another purchase down the road or a different guitar.

    Today someone asked me if I wanted to trade the Epi Traditional PRO for a Guild Starfire with Bigsby or a Supro Black Holiday, both new (I’d settle for at least great condition). I have no idea about those guitars (or the Supro brand at all), I know some Guilds are great semi-hollows and others are made in China.

    I’ve been toying with the Idea of MAYBE getting a semi-hollow, like an Epi DOT or better. As much as I’d prefer a Gibson ES 335/339 I could not afford it.

    What do you think? Is one of those guitars “better” than mine? Or with “higher” resale value? In case I don’t like it and want to sell it, I wouldn’t want to get less than I would have gotten for the Epi.

    Thanks a lot guys! All advise would be greatly appreciated!


    Cheers,

    Walter


    P.S. If you live in Zürich and want to get together and jam, send me a PM.

    EDIT: My guitar is an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional PRO Custom Shop Limited Edition 2012
     
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  2. brookdalebill

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    I’d trade for the Starfire.
    Single or double cutaway?
    Regardless, I’d prefer the Guild.
     
  3. blowtorch

    blowtorch Telefied Ad Free Member

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    don't make resale value a consideration. guitars are for buying, not selling

    that Black Holiday is a sweet ride
     
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  4. Tonetele

    Tonetele Poster Extraordinaire

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    If your Epiphone is not an older than 65 I'd trade for the Starfire, particularly if the Guild Starfire 1V has DeArmond pickups. One of the best guitars I've ever played. I played it in a big chain pawnshop and and everyone went silent, I'm no genius, but even my ex-wife said I had everyone listening.
    Not me- that guitar. Guild DeAarmond pickups are so hard to find. That would be my choice.
     
  5. Nick Fanis

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    I think you misunderstood ..

    http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Les-Paul-Traditional-PRO.aspx

    http://guildguitars.com/g/starfire-iii/

    :D

    to the OP ,if the guitar is one of the new Korean Guild Starfires (
    Newark st. collection) they are killer guitars.
     
  6. Tonetele

    Tonetele Poster Extraordinaire

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    Sorry, no, I would not let go of a real Epiphone for a new Guild UNLESS it has DeArmond or TV Jones pickups ( doubtful). I am assuming your Epiphone is a 335 type early 60s..
    Old Epiphones do not have embossed E on the pickplate, they are as good as, or better than, Gibsons around say '61.
    John Lennon and many, many musicians played Epiphones in the 60s as they were so good. I do not know the quality of new guitars but a Starfire 1V would be my choice.
    Jaust some advice, Gibson 330s are all hollow, have P-90 pups and sound good to me. Plenty Enbay. Cheers.
     
  7. Tonetele

    Tonetele Poster Extraordinaire

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    Yes I thought you were getting a Guild Starfire 1V.
    I'd still trade for the Guild having played in a band 45 years ago who had that kind of guitar. Cheers and thank you for correcting me.
     
  8. waltschwarzkopf

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    I'm sorry, but I don't know what gave you that idea. My guitar is an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional PRO Custom Shop Limited Edition 2012
     
  9. waltschwarzkopf

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    ok, so it looks like it is a Starfire III. Not "brand new", but in good condition, as he claims to have played it only a couple of times.

    Here are some pics, you can see the Supro on the right corner.

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  10. bettyseldest

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    I don't know about your guitar, but there is an as new 2011 on eBay for US $445 BIN.

    New Supros are available in the UK for £799, and Guilds for £979, so secondhand they should be worth as much if not more than your guitar.

    So you should not loose out if you decide to make a swap and then have to sell on at a later date.

    I don't care for the Supro, but I did try several new Guilds a few years ago and was impressed. In the end I went for a used Gibson ES135.
     
  11. Tonetele

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    I'd still go for the Guild over any modern Epiphone.
     
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    I got it! Both of us are happy with the trade! Win-win, right?

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  13. Ringo

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    You did what I would have done, went for the Guild, that's a great looking guitar! Enjoy!
     
  14. bsman

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    Good trade. I have one of the newer MIK Starfire IVs, and the build quality is immaculate - perhaps the best I've ever seen in a Korean guitar.
     
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  15. Tonetele

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    Well done! You went for the Guild.:)
     
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    Cool!
     
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    Well done! I just saw the thread now and I was thinking that would be my chioce!
     
  18. strat1

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    Good purchase. I have some higher end guitars, but I love my Guild MIK Starfire IV. For $1099 US, it is one of the nicest playing guitars I own. The pups are nice and I pump mine either through a PRRI, Tweed Blues Junior, or Supro 1600 Supreme that I just bought. Can't go wrong for that price.
     
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