Torque and tightening sequence

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  1. OlRedNeckHippy

    OlRedNeckHippy Friend of Leo's

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    A fellow player asked me, to ask the collective:
    Whats the torque and tightening sequence for a telecaster pickguard?

    Is there such a thing?
     
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    I have never put that much thought into it. I don’t tighten any of the screws until they’re all started in the holes, then just work my way around the guard until they’re all snug. They don’t have to be super tight, just snug enough to stay put.
     
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    When replacing any screw into wood, turn it backward until you feel the "thunk" where it falls down into the first thread.
    Anything else will just split the current threads in the wood.
     
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    I do the same with machine screws into metal. Prevents cross-threading.

    Torquing sequence would be like torquing a car wheel.
    Screws in but not tight, then tighten diagonally opposites - firm, then repeat tight.
     
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    All of the above.

    If you are a little OCD like me, line up all the screw slots.
     
  7. RottenTheCat

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    For the 8 screw pickguard, the sequence is as follows, assuming #1 to be at the left neck pocket, numerically CLOCKWISE

    pass one
    #1, #7, #4 tighten to 11.3 inch pounds
    #2, #5, #8 tighten to 10 inch pounds
    #3 tighten to 7.6 inch pounds

    pass two
    #2, #3, #4 tighten to 16.75 inch pounds
    #1, #5, #7 #8 tighten to 16.25 inch pounds

    pass three
    #1, through #8 tighten in 1/8 turn increments until gap at countersink (mostly) disappears

    For the 5 screw bridge, use the same technique, omitting #6, though #8, and reverse the direction of the count to ANTICLOCKWISE.

    Upon successful completion of pickguard installation, you are now also qualified to work on almost any small vintage British automobile......
     
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    It's just a piece of plastic. It doesn't matter.

    But yeah... I do it that way, too, because I can't defy the voices.
     
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  9. TimTam

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    A suitable torque wrench ... ;)
    [​IMG]

    In other words, it doesn't matter.
     
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    Matching replacement: whatever you feel like
    New holes: it doesn't hurt to rub the screw tips on a wax candle.
     
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    Tighten each screw until the guard cracks, then back them all off 1/4 turn, the tighten them all 1/2 turn.
     
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    I honestly thought this thread was a joke. Is it? It's totally easy to screw in screws by touch assuming you have used a screwdriver previously in your life on earth and have any feel whatsoever. Though if you're programming robots, I guess you need to go by the numbers. Since every piece of wood and screw-hole is different, snugging the screws 'til the hold the plastic against the body is better than going by numbers. New holes in hard wood -- not the same as screwing for the 10th time into something softer.
     
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    Oops - my bad, (speed reading).
    I thought OP was referring to neck plate.
     
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    Depends on weather it’s Ash or Alder:)
     
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    I gave you a like for effort Rottenthecat, but sorry, took it away for the dangerous "one size fits all approach."

    Are these figures for an ash body? Or alder? Or what? Single or multi ply, polycarbonate or bakelite pickguard? Cross head or slotted screws? (Edit: sorry, reckless meanie. You beat me to it while I was typing.)

    Does anyone use roasted (or torrified) wood for bodies? You'll need to use very different torque figures if you do, for fear of cracking the wood.

    And pilot holes - what size? I recently asked a big name replacement neck manufacturer what size pilot hole for Tele neck screws into roasted maple. Given that I'd just seen cracks starting in the wood while tightening the tuner fixing screws, because of undersized pilot holes, I thought it was worth getting their advice to prevent another bigger disaster. "We don't know", was their answer.
     
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    Not OCD at all. Standard cabinet making practice that I learnt from my father who learnt it from his father who did his apprenticeship in the 1910's.

    I've forgotten the reason. But there is one.
     
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  20. Ricky D.

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    Well, it's definitely an appearance/workmanship detail.

    But to me, it's also a test of attention to detail which the builder either passes or fails.
     
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