Tone controls are useless and I demand they all be replaced with a volume.

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  1. Mike Simpson

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    Why would a painter want to use only one shade of yellow ?
     
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    Clare, the guitar kid in my school band didn't get a tone control either.... clare body sm.jpg surprisingly, the Tele neck PU works well as a bridge PU... a sweet guitar.....

    and after 6 mths there isn't a scratch in the thin poly finish...:)
     
  3. telemnemonics

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    A big one for me is 1st preamp tube selection, with a variety of vintage 12ax7, 5751 and 12ay7 to choose from.
    Speaker selection is important also, I use Red Fang and Celestion Golds a lot, which are bright but have a little more compression and sweetness to the high end. Recently I started using an Eminence Cannabis Rex in an amp that particularly confounded me to the point of desperation: a Carr Hammerhead which has no tone controls, just two rotary switches, kind of challenging with Esquires.
    It's pretty much every part of the signal chain including for me the body and neck woods, the pickup, tubes, amp and speakers.
    Part of the recipe includes cathode biased amps that are not too clean or oversized for the volume, even if not actually distorted. A bit of amp squish softens the worst mistakes while allowing plenty of high end and clarity.
    Then a light touch and muting.

    I want to keep the high end and make it sound great, not attenuate the high end or shunt it to ground right at the pickup.
    No overwound pickup either! Just a single old Tele bridge pickup in the low 6k range.

    This means it's always right there ready to add to the edge of notes with no knob required, or muted into submission the rest of the time.
     
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    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Some of my Esquires get a second output jack where the tone control was supposed to go, but a pez dispensed might work too.
    Leave the hole open and the mojo might leak out.
    The tone won't leak out though, since it's in the fingers.
     
  5. chris m.

    chris m. Poster Extraordinaire

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    When you use the tone knob as a "spin a split" humbucker splitter you get hum cancellation until you dial out one coil completely.
     
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    I always thought the tele would greatly benefit from 2 tone knobs and 2 volume knobs a la Gibson, but I do like the raw simplicity of the tele arrangement. Anyway, I can't even imagine not having tone knobs. Way too much to give away and leave at home.
     
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    My squier 51 does not have a tone knob and it is one of my favorite ones to play.
     
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    Mayas caster Tele-Holic

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    TWO tones controls on vintage Amos...
     
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    Mayas caster Tele-Holic

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    Sorry, vintage amps.
     
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    songtalk Friend of Leo's

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    Dude, that'd be cool. I agree.
     
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  12. Doctorx33

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    Don't need tone controls on my guitars. My ears are shot, can't hear anything about 6-7k anyway, so I got natural rolloff.
     
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    I have never rolled the tone off any guitar in any position in my life. Useless knob.
     
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    Starts need another tone control standard, not less- the first thing I do when I get a Strat is tie the bridge pickup to the middle tone knob. Blankety blank ice picky thing.

    I'm more in favor of getting rid of the tone controls on Fender Blackface amps, since they don't do a damn thing anyway.
     
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    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, Pez Nickleback!

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    Okay, that's a little frightening.
     
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    That's why when I got rid of my electric guitars, the only one I saved was an AV 72 Tele custom. It has a so, so, neck pickup in it that's a factory Fender Wide Range Humbucker, but it's the newer one that is only 5.88ks. It doesn't sound like a real WRHB, but it sounds better than any other Fender neck pickup I've ever had, along with the original vintage pickup in the bridge pickup, AND the separate volume and tone controls I can get a better (to me, and that's the only guy I'm concerned about) tone out of it than all the other Teles I've owned. With the OV bridge pickup I always have enough ice pick on hand to kill anyone who isn't deaf already on tap. It's ugly to Tele aficionados, not a real Tele to them, has too many knobs, and is just kind of an old bast**d like its owner. ( but ( I )like it, sort of )
     
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    I use tone control a lot, considering I tend to eq my amp to be a tad bright so that I don't need a lot of volume to be heard when I need to be. I like having the tone control so that if the bad gets quiet and I have a lead part, I don't shatter everyones ear drum with icepickiness. Also, when I'm playing power chords, a bit more treble sounds pretty good sometimes, so its nice to have that there when I want it and be able to get rid of it without using pedals.

    Also les pals on the neck PU with the tone rolled all the way back and an overdriven/distorted amp... great sound
     
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    I feel your pain.
    I, uh, hate tone controls, and never use volume controls.
    I just accidentally bump them with my picking hand and "mess up" my already glorious tone!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    All I use/abuse is the pickup selector switch.
     
  19. bigbean

    bigbean Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Ever since I read in that Leslie West used the hole where his neck pickup used to be as an ashtray, I have thought that using an electric guitar as a wearable life style enhancement device was a largely missed opportunity.

    The two tone controls on most humbucker guitars could also be:
    • caps for flasks
    • a tissue dispenser for
    Considering the age of most of us posters, how about?:
    • Nurse call
    • 911

    In my opinion this is as good of an excuse for a thread topic as any.

    Rock on Garth!
     
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