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Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by L.A. Mike, Apr 2, 2014.
I've used the Distillery since June, love it.
Does just what it's supposed to.
What exactly does it do? I know it has two foot switches, is it like an OD and a boost or more of an EQ? It's confusing.
http://www.toneconcepts.com/pdfs/TheDistilleryManual.pdf explains it accurately.
The right side is a 20 db boost, guts punches it up, bleed tweaks the highs. I keep this on all of the time with the controls pretty low usually (9 o'clock-ish). I use the left side to change my sound during solos sometimes, the contour knob is pretty useful to fundamentally change your single coil vs. humbucker tone... so you can just hit that left switch and sound like a different guitar. I usually play a P90 Les Paul and a 52 hot rod Tele through one of those tweed covered Jensen Blues Jrs. I expect it'd let you dial in "your sound" easier on amps you don't care for but have to use for whatever reason.
Great description. Can't wait to check it out. I'll have to figure out how to make space for it on my board! Lol
Great! Paul is sending me the weekly winners and we'll make an announcement once the TDPRI giveaway is over naming the winners and sending out The Distillery pedals to their lucky new owners!
Now about your question! I approached a number of our artists in Jan. 2013 (before NAMM) to ask them to join a collaboration to develop new products together. I asked them "what's missing, what do you need?" and what came back was the request to design something that would make any amp sound "better".
While this would include backline Fenders Deluxe Reverbs, Hot Rods, etc., it would also have to work with Vince Gill's amazing backline, Steve Lukather's Bogners and our other artists vintage amps, etc.
What we designed is a power, transparent, boost with a tone shaping circuit. The pedal was extensively on stage (prototypes during sound checks, etc.) and tour (final prototypes) tested prior to release for about 6 months, starting with Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Buddy Guy, Los Lobos, Nels Cline, Dweezil Zappa, Vince Gill, Jim Campilongo, Billy Gibbons, Steve Lukather .... all the way through to Pat Metheny.
We're using the same artist testing process for our upcoming releases (including a great dedicated Overdrive) that are forthcoming. Some surprises in store.
As for The Distillery, once tweaked and set, you really notice it when its off (i.e. its like something is missing). It gives lots of bloom and air to the sound particularly at volume. That's why many artists have it in an always ON position and use to to pair with their amps (Vince Gill, Steve Lukather, David Hidalgo). It is really intended to enhance a great guitar + amp combination ....
We'd really like to get feedback from the winners as to how the use the pedal.
As you'll note from our artist quotes, many of the artists use it in a distinct and personal way.
As for its OD qualities, its not designed to be an OD but it is designed to integrate with an amp, pushing it into OD territory organically. All of the functions are interactive as well so its a pedal for mature (experienced) players who can tweak and tune it with their ears.
Lots coming over the next three months from us .... with something to be announced next week.
Many thanks for your support. Much appreciated. We're building testimonials section and would love your feedback/experiences to compliment our "How I Use The Distillery" video with our artists ... and to also inform the next several versions of the Distillery family.
Great info. Thanks! I can wait to get it and check it out. It sounds great!
The four lucky winners of The Distillery that we donated to the TDPRI 2014 give-away have been announced.
Here is the winner's information thread:
Got mine today. Thanks to ToneConcepts and TDPRI. Can't wait to plug it in and check it out!
I'm posted my impressions in my NPD thread:
"I got the pedal today. It took a while to get here because they build them to order which is pretty cool. I'll be doing a full video demo for my YouTube channel but for now just my first impressions.
I really like it. I finally get what it is (I think) and it's exactly what I was hoping. It has 5 knobs and two foot switches. I think the two knobs on the right and the middle knob (3 total) are all affecting the boost function which is activated by the right hand foot switch. The "boost" knob controls the amount of boost (up to 20db I think). The "guts" knob is basically a gain knob and the "bleed" knob is a tone knob for the boost/gain function. It's a great boost, if this section was the whole pedal it would still be pretty cool.
But then there's the "contour" and "edge" knobs which make up the "shape" section of the pedal activated by the left foot switch. This really makes the pedal special IMO. The coolest thing is how the edge and contour knobs interact with each other. The manual had some suggested settings that were really helpful and really well described. Basically it shows 3 settings, one to add "sparkle", one to add "presence" and one to add thickness or something (they have a better adjective in the manual I just can't remember it right now). All the settings were right on. It was kind of unreal how accurately they were described and then how precise the sound was on each setting.
The biggest thing I kept hearing before I got it was that it's a really subtle pedal that you barely notice is on. I didn't find that to be true at all. Sure you can set it that way but I found it to be very noticeable at most settings.
I'm still getting used to the pedal. My fav thing so far is to use the shape side to thicken up my Tele's neck pickup and then kick on a little bit of a boost. It sounds soooo good.
Like I said I'll make a video and show some of the sounds, there's a lot of them in this box. So far I really like it, it seems insanely versatile. Now I just have to figure out how to fit it in my tiny PT mini!"
Wow. Based on this review, I am beginning to think mine was broken. It was purely "emperor's new clothes", nothing happening at all. Very strange.
I'm sorry Moosie. I'll try to demonstrate in the video.
I won one of those too but haven't had the chance to try it yet. Looking forward to your review.
It's uploading now. I'll post it when it's done. Thanks.
Sorry for overdriving the mic at times. I'm still working on getting an interface and a mic to improve the audio quality. Coming soon I promise!
Here it is:
Crank it up and let me know what you think
Gary, thanks for taking the time to demo the pedal and make the video.
Many of the artists that we have using the pedal (and who we helped us develop it) use it on an always on setting (the boost side).
It is really used in conjunction with their amps. Steve Lukather, Vince Gill, David Hidalgo, Buddy Guy, etc., etc. It has intrigued a number of famous artists across genres.
Keep in mind that we've tested with all of these players live with their stage rigs (sound check, etc.).
As someone noted, you really notice the full effect at volume. When you switch if off (and we tried this with Vince, etc.), something's missing
It was designed to enhance a great guitar + amp combo and to be an integral part of a rig and not an 'effect' per se.
Wish I could have heard yours ... PM if you'd like with details (i.e. where you bought it, etc.).
Were you getting sounds like this:
No, nothing like that! I really think mine must have been disconnected inside somehow. You know, you expect it's going to do something, and when it arrives, it's SO subtle, yeah, I can almost hear it... No, actually I can't. I went away and came back to it with fresh ears. No difference.
I played both s/c and humbuckers through a Fendery rig. Probably my SFDR. Great, bright, clean tone. The pedal was like glass. Completely transparent. Uselessly so
I think I purchased from CME, and I returned the pedal after a day or two.
EDIT: it reminded me of the time I was trying to dial in my board, and couldn't get it quite right... Played for an hour before I realized I'd bypassed the whole thing. Almost sold the whole board that very day. The Distillery was actually ON, because as I said in an earlier post, I was able to get 'something' at the extremes. Not useful sounds, but to prove it was on... But then trying to dial in useable sounds, it sounded zero different from my normal rig. I don't get it.
Can you PM me or email me the details of your purchase?
We haven't heard of a problem with any Distilleries sold by CME (and they've sold a lot of them) so I'd like to track this problem down and analyze the pedal.
P.S. My direct email: seraphim (at) toneconcepts.com