Tinnitus and earpods

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I have had tinnitus for about 5 years now, more noticeable in the last couple years. I hear the soft cricket tones most of the time when it’s quiet. I just got a new iPhone with no earphone jack and have had to use those stupid Bluetooth earpod things for a week or so. It feels like it’s getting worse all of a sudden. I am using them mostly for lengthy business phone calls and not even listening to music that much. My wife who never had tinnitus before has also started using them the last month and has been complaining about tinnitus now too. We both listen at relatively low volume.

Has anyone else noticed tinnitus getting worse with the Bluetooth EarPods? Just curious if there could be something in the Bluetooth signal affecting it as well?
 

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I avoid earpods.

In my running at the track, I use small Walkman like headphones.

Simple conjecture has led me to believe the direct in-the-ear canal of the pods cannot be a gd thing.


On my hdphones I often hv them slightly offset away from the ear canal.... and not loud!!
 

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I suspect the isolation effect of plugging your ears is magnifying the tinnitus. You can get other compatible types of headphone or adaptors. If you have poor hearing, you may be stressing your ears with too much volume.

i am in same boat.. its annoying and I have to use earplugs playing live to help prevent further noise damage and they cut the volume but increase the apparent tinnitus when quiet. I use open back cans when recording.

I play white noise or rain noises to mask the tinnitus when I can’t ignore it.
 

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A JBL compression driver that produces very high power next to me gave me tinnitus back in 1988. I find the only relief I get is background noise; external music or even pink noise helps.
I still have one good ear but the tinnitue seems to sit centre right in my head.
Tinnitus has no cure, we have to live with it.
 

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I got it from Pepto Bismol. I use ear buds to drown it out when I sleep.
 
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I've had tinnitus for more than 30 years now... I avoid listening through headphones as much as possible (even at low volume), because I noticed that it worsened the phenomenon during the following days.
I don't know the effects of a bluetooth headset, but it could actually be worse.
 

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Not sure about Bluetooth, but earphones don’t help if not very silent
Having background noise around you usually makes you increase volume to an unhealthy level
All you can do about tinnitus is to learn to live with it and protect your ears
I have my second set of custom made hearing protection which I use frequently
I use Bluetooth noise cancelling headphones set very quiet all day for work (I make calls and write emails, typical office monkey soon to be replaced by machines) - it does not seem to cause any harm
 
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Luckily, I haven't had any troubles yet. That's why I consult a specialist once a year to have my ears checked. I once talked to him about in-ear-monitoring, earphones and headphones. He wasn't to keen about all of them. Not about a mystery-bluetooth-radiation, but he didn't like the general idea feeding a signal - and that one signal only - directly to your ears. He (kind of) said the ear is designed to work within your environment, it shouldn't be isolated from the rest of your senses.
 

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Tinnitus is debilitating, my grandmother had it and my mother has it quite bad.

I'm ok, but I hate headphones and can't stand ear-buds at all. And now most business meetings are online, and I'm expected to wear them in the open-plan office where I work. I stay at home when I can, where I have good desk speakers and a good mic setup.
 

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My tinnitus came after years of abuse at 96+ db situations unprotected. The earbuds at a moderate listening level are not a problem...but get good headphones! earbuds are no way to listen to music, haha. Get a pair of open backs for home listening, and don’t crank it too much.
 

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Tinnitus affects people in different ways. I developed mine in 1982 when I thought it'd be a good idea to poke my head into the bass bin during a Motorhead gig ( Iron Fist )
It wasn't a good idea.

I hate silence. Silence makes my inner frequency generator ramp up the gain. White noise isn't bad, speech radio is better, music is best of all, and I find speakers < headphones < IEMs

I doubt the Bluetooth aspect, or rather the radio frequencies, have any effect. Bluetooth is ( to my ears ) awful for music with in-ears. To isolate the Bluetooth, could you try a lightning - 3.5mm adaptor and normal headphones/IEMs with a mic?

Gaming headphones are a good place to start.
 

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Tinnitus affects people in different ways. I developed mine in 1982 when I thought it'd be a good idea to poke my head into the bass bin during a Motorhead gig ( Iron Fist )
It wasn't a good idea.

I hate silence. Silence makes my inner frequency generator ramp up the gain. White noise isn't bad, speech radio is better, music is best of all, and I find speakers < headphones < IEMs

I doubt the Bluetooth aspect, or rather the radio frequencies, have any effect. Bluetooth is ( to my ears ) awful for music with in-ears. To isolate the Bluetooth, could you try a lightning - 3.5mm adaptor and normal headphones/IEMs with a mic?

Gaming headphones are a good place to start.

One of my mates developed tinnitus after seeing Motörhead around 2007. I did tell him to keep the ear defenders in..
 

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I can't say mine got worse but I could certainly tell I had it after using them, changed to Marshall over the ear phones and they certainly don't start my ears ringing
 

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There gizmos available that allow you to convert the 1/8”plug on your current listening device to your phone. I use them almost every day.
 

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Lots of good suggestions here. I certainly empathize with you as I'm really struggling with tinnitus. I have found "Bone Conduction Wireless Bluetooth Headphones" to be very tinnitus friendly!!!

On a slight tangent here - I have done enough experimentation with foods that they say trigger it - alcohol, sweets, fast foods, caffeine - the only one that has a noticeable impact is caffeine, to the point that I only drink 'half caff' now, and only one cup a day. I only mention this in the possibility that you are having coffee or another trigger during your business meetings.

Oddly, alcohol, and a good amount of it, subdued the tinnitus. I guess a good amount of alcohol will subdue anything, LOL. But I no longer drink so, alas, I don't have that temporary relief anymore.

Good luck to you, I hope you find something that helps.
 

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I think Townsend said he got tinnitus from headphones on busses more than his hi watts.
 

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If you mean AirPods Pro, I'm calling nonsense on some of the ideas expressed and backing it up with the advice I got from the university health center hearing department. They suggested I keep using my AirPods Pro for the hearing aid mode being less expensive than hearing aids.

Poor sleep and stress have an impact on the tinnitus. The noise cancelling headphones and ear buds bring back listening quality because of the overall impression you get at low volumes.

This could all be different for some models that create more pressure than AirPods do.
 

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Over the years and speaking to many hearing specialists, I have learnt that there seems to be tinnitus caused by damage to the minute hairs that suspend the ear drum that connect to the nerve ends and stress/diet related temporary tinnitus.
In my case I have damage to my ears by excessive noise levels (as the compression horn exploded with the power of stage feedback at full volume on a 5k Rig from 2 feet away) as I was setting the front of house out to match a couple of mics that weren't working.
I have friend that suffer from diet related tinnitus; the result of excessive blood pressure and allergies.
I have trouble resting and find making jokes about my condition helps. I have a permanent kettle that is boiling in my ear at full volume and the loss of any hearing above 3kHZ causes stress.
Whether it is permanent damage or temporary tinnitus, the effects are just as bad and it gets very tiring, making some bad tempered due to their hearing loss.
I still engineer bands on stage and work with ear defenders. I reckon if I can hear what is being played on stage, so can everyone else. Another sound engineer I meet from time to time, has what I describe as 'cloth ears'. He is a sheet metal fabricator and always turns the lower frequencies almost off. I keep telling him, a kick drum should be felt in the chest, as well as heard. Neither of which comes out of his mixes.

I wish all with tinnitus peace and those that haven't to protect you ears. It is not nice and incurable.
 




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