If the modeler still works, why throw it out?Pros: They sound good, they are flexible, you have infinite programmability, you can synch all of your modulation and delays to a midi clock if you play with a click. I am a tube amp guy, but I play with a lot of folks who use the Axe FX and Neural, etc. etc. and I admit that they sound really good. We have come a long way since the days of the kidney bean POD. I would say that my decision to choose to use an amp is more due to personal preference than objective superiority. This was not the case 20 years ago.
Cons: On the fly adjustment can be tough. I see a lot of modeler players who tweak their sounds in the bedroom, and then on the gig have way too much low end, way too much reverb, etc. etc. It's easy with a conventional rig to reach down and spin a knob without calling NASA to reprogram your rig.
Eventual obsolescence: As soon as somebody comes out with a better mousetrap, you have a very expensive paperweight. This is a pro and a con as the technology keeps improving. I've seen guys pour hours into programming their Line 6 gear, then throw that out and spends hours programming their Kemper, then throw that out and spend hours programming their Neural Cortex... and eventually something will come out that is better than that and they'll start all over again.
All that said, even though I don't personally like modelers, I'll admit that they have come a long way and that they really do sound outstanding now. I think the decision is more about interface and tweakability than it is tone at this point.
Yeah, for sure. I'm not saying one way is better than the other. Having done quite a bit of recording myself, I've done it both ways, both isolated from the amp and in the same room. I was speaking more towards live gigs than recording. And I do realize many folks do play that way, with minimal stage volume. I do that myself when I have duo gigs at resorts or restaurants. But when it's a full band, I gotta have the symbiotic relationship between the guitar and amp. It's just a completely different instrument when used that way. And like I said, not better or worse, just different.well,
everytime i've ever recorded in a professional studio (at least 4 times) i wasn't in the room where the cab was, i was in the studio, listening to my rig miced up in a booth,
so i was not pushing any more air than i was getting back from the studio monitors.
so, playing thru my iridium and monitoring loudly with my jbl's,
is really no different.
So I've recently dipped my toe in the modeling world when I purchased the Line 6 HX Effects. So I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it. What do you like or dislike? And like the title suggests, I really want to hear from those of you that use it.
i use 'modeling' for recording.
it is perfect (PERFECT) for that.
Amen.For recording, modeling can't be beaten
yes, well, for me, it's a great 'pedal platform'...I have an Iridium so it only "models" three amps but who really needs more than a Fender, Vox or Marshall?
I've decided that solid state amps truly sound better than modeling amps. Case in point is my Katana Mk2 100, solid state with modeling used in the effects. It's a hybrid and a killer sounding amp.
That is not what Boss says in writing and on the phone.I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the PA sections in the Katana, Nextone and Blues Cube all run clean. Everything that gives those amps their tone is in software. Twisting the Kat's amp variation knob just tells it to run a different model.
That is not what Boss says in writing and on the phone.
Whatever, my main point was that it sounds great. Want to dispute that?
So you're saying Boss is lying? I don't buy that.They're feeding you the marketing material. I have the service manual for the Katana. The entire PA section is an off-the shelf ST Micro TDA7293, which is a general-purpose 100W class AB amp on a chip found in a large number of other products. The analog, solid-state parts aren't being used to make tone.
Not at all. My Blues Cube sounds great.
So you're saying Boss is lying? I don't buy that.
"BOSS Katana Amp FAQs: Is Katana Good For Beginner Guitarists?" https://thevault.musicarts.com/boss-katana-amps-faqs/?amp=1