1. Win a Broadcaster or one of 3 Teles! The annual Supporting Member Giveaway is on. To enter Click Here. To see all the prizes and full details Click Here. To view the thread about the giveaway Click Here.

Thoughts on compressors?

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by Adriano9009, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. fezz parka

    fezz parka ---------------------------

    Posts:
    13,841
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2004
    Location:
    Del Floria's Tailor Shop
    Ba6a.
     
  2. Ed Boyd

    Ed Boyd Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,916
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Location:
    Illinois
    The old vintage RCAs? LOL! That will be what, around 4-5 grand?
     
  3. fezz parka

    fezz parka ---------------------------

    Posts:
    13,841
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2004
    Location:
    Del Floria's Tailor Shop
    And worth every penny. :lol:

    The Barber Tone Press is a good one for guitar. Nice box.
     
  4. sirbergersworth

    sirbergersworth Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    560
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Location:
    St. Louis, MO
    Ross comp. nuff said!

    Sent from my iPhone using TDPRI
     
  5. Ed Boyd

    Ed Boyd Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,916
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Location:
    Illinois
    Serious? I played Ross when they were new. They are noisy and massacre you high end. I played one because I could't afford any better.
     
  6. BootRoots

    BootRoots Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    703
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2004
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    But the guy from phish plays one and then everyone starts hearing what they want in the pedal. Not a big fan of the ross either.
     
  7. Paul G.

    Paul G. Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    3,485
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Location:
    Rhode Island
    I guess it depends on what you're used to. Started with a gray Ross. Then went on to "better", more transparent comps and never felt like I was there.

    Recently bought a cheapo Joyo, sounds very much like a Ross, but less noisy (and less max compression). It is junk and it will break. But for under $40 I'm happy, dirty and squishy.

    Yes compressors are a cool tool. Use 'em if you like, learn how to set them and yay.

    They are processors, and your sound a bit artificial, but it can be a useful sound and dynamic. Of course you're playing an Electric guitar, through an Electronic Amplifier, hearing the results through electro-magnetic transducer. You're not really starting out from a "natural" or "organic" place.

    P.
     
  8. orangedrop

    orangedrop Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,049
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2010
    Location:
    New York
    I think you meant the release control. (As in I think you knew that)



    If you set the threshold low enough and the release long enough, as the note decays the compressor will keep acting on the signal above the threshold, and a nice long decay will keep it from stuttering/breathing.

    Some compressors even have a hold or sustain control which is pretty trick.

    The only PITA with these is you sometimes have to follow the ADSR of the sound source well enough not to get nasty artifacts.

    OTOH, you can often completely mutate the ADSR of the sound source to get very cool stuff.

    The trick is, you get to do whatever you like from transparent processing to complete audio mutation.

    I am sorry to hear this!
    Perhaps you will get to try many different types and models over the years and find something that will be useful.
    Have a look at the "Shadow Hills Mastering Compressor" and see if that looks a bit more adjustable and fun to work with.

    I love the way they sound, and wish I could afford one!

    :cool: The Drip Electronics kit build might be a little less costly, and you could make a few of them for the stereo buss.
     
  9. Jimmy Dean

    Jimmy Dean Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,002
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Location:
    Portland, OR, houseboat
    I won't leave home without one. My Wampler Ego is so good.
     
  10. wstarkel

    wstarkel Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    186
    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2012
    Location:
    Norcross, GA
    I use my compressor, a cmatmods deluxe signa comp, to "even out" the output of my different strings most of the time it is on. Also gives a nice polish to my tone. I turn it off, but only when I'm running high gain pedals (Muffs, MIAB, etc) that compress a lot on their own. For me, compression becomes more important as your gain decreases.

    Some have mentioned an attack knob on compressors; I think this is a crucial component of going between super squishy very compressed tones and just putting a bit of even keel and polish to your tone.
     
  11. k.l.k

    k.l.k Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    542
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2013
    Location:
    cali
    many years of playing and gigging, i never owned a compressor.

    bought one last year.

    feels like cheating. heh
     
  12. pete-strych

    pete-strych Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    960
    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    I have a pretty large pedalboard. The compressor is my least used effect. When I'm in the studio, I insert rack mount compressors all over the place (most channels, actually); but, I rarely use when playing guitar. I've tried everything from high dollar pedals to your standard Dyna Comp (back on my current board)...I just don't find them all that useful. I'd rather layer quality overdrives & boosters & even Fuzz boxes while cutting back their gain, instead of stomping on a compressor.

    Sent from my iPhone using TDPRI
     
  13. LKB3rd

    LKB3rd Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,811
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Location:
    CT
    I use one a lot. I like the Keeley 2 knob. I use it for a volume boost, and depending on what I am playing anything from supersquished as an effect, to very subtle mostly using it as a boost.
     
  14. guit30

    guit30 Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    67
    Posts:
    1,207
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Location:
    Abington
    I have been using a Wampler Ego Compressor for awhile. Meets my needs, only pedal I use.
     
  15. sacizob

    sacizob Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,904
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Location:
    Middlesex County, MA
    [​IMG]I leave my comp on all the time. I have no idea what it does, but if I accidently shut it off I can tell.
     
  16. sirbergersworth

    sirbergersworth Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    560
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Location:
    St. Louis, MO
    My Ross Comp isn't noisy at all.
    I have used mine for years and I like the way it sounds. I like the the way it breaths and pumps. I can tell it is working and it has just the right amount of sustain for my ears.

    To each his own I guess.

    Sent from my iPhone using TDPRI
     
  17. Adriano9009

    Adriano9009 TDPRI Member

    Posts:
    65
    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Location:
    Ontario
    How is the wampler ego comp? It's true bypass I'm pretty sure right?
     
  18. LKB3rd

    LKB3rd Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,811
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Location:
    CT
    I tried one and I liked it except that even with the tone all the way at 0 it still brightens up the tone, which I don't need or want with a Tele.
     
  19. orangedrop

    orangedrop Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,049
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2010
    Location:
    New York
    Wampler Ego Compressor
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGPDVjsYfFw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=LGPDVjsYfFw&app=desktop
    Seems the "sustain" control is essentially the threshold and it has an auto release as part of the ADSR

    Brent Mason With Mr. Wampler demonstrating how Mr. Mason uses it.
    Look at how high (how low the sustain knob is) Mr. Mason keeps the threshold so the compressor is just lightly effecting the guitar.
    He also keeps the mix control backed off some so the transients of his picking are not completely effected by the compressor no matter where the attack control may be set.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wg2M3U6_HE&app=desktop
     
  20. orangedrop

    orangedrop Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,049
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2010
    Location:
    New York
    Try lowering the "sustain" control some more and backing off the mix and fiddling with the attack.

    The balance of these can sometimes have a bit of a thinning effect, which while not exactly adding treble can reduce some mid and give a pointier tone.

    compressors can definitely twist tone and make things quite glassy or very um, oomphy sounding.

    Great for a drum buss when you want to make it kick some butt.
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.