Those dealing with sleep apnea

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  1. fendertx

    fendertx Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free + Supporter

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    I've recently performed the sleep study and have been diagnosed with mild Sleep Apnea.
    My Dentist recommended the study due to my Bruxism.

    It seem I have a choice between an auto-pap or a oral implement.
    My Dentist recommended the auto-pap and I meet with the Sleep Specialist tomorrow to get His thoughts.

    I am looking for insight from folks that have experience with this. Maybe questions I should ask or things I should consider. I really want to get the most out of the consultation before I decide which route to go.
     
  2. FerruleCat

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    APAP. I have not tried a dental implement, but my position is that it sounds like pure snake oil.
     
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  3. schmee

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    I've often wondered if anyone ever takes the sleep study and doesn't have apnea.... I have many friends with machines. I couldn't do it, would drive me nuts. But what exactly are they trying to save you from? Dying from not breathing at night? When's the last time you heard about someone doing that?
    Sorry, but just trying to ferrett out if this is real for so many or just over diagnosed. Any thoughts?
     
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    I've often wonder if most sleep-study labs aren't funded exclusively by CPAP manufacturers myself!
     
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    Let's not turn this into a sleep apnea denial thread. Don't want a study, don't have a study.
     
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  6. Whatizitman

    Whatizitman Friend of Leo's

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    Google long term effects of hypoxia and REM fragmentation.

    One reason why sleep studies are often positive is due to pre-screening by primary care providers. Patients without clear symptoms tend not to get referred for sleep studies. Stopping breathing during sleep is a pretty clear indicator to almost anyone who observes someone with apnea.
     
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    Miz Diane's doctor recommended a sleep test (20 yrs ago?) and she was diagnosed with apnea. She got a CPAP...now a Bi-PAP. Never attempted the oral thingy.

    I snore. Loudly. She recommended that I take a sleep test...but first I tried the oral thing (actually, several of them). They didn't fix the problem.

    So, after much prodding from her, I finally took the study. I have "clinical apnea"...meaning I'm at the minimum guideline level. Frankly, for various reasons I felt the study was hokum, untrustworthy, etc.,...but insurance covered it and I gave it a try. Now I've been doing CPAP for 10 yrs.

    For Miz Diane: I think her Bi-Pap is essential. She experiences fewer migraines and she no longer snores like a freight-train climbing a steep grade. Her log shows significant improvement in her sleep.

    For me, the benefits are less clear. All my life, I've been able to sleep sitting in a chair...and I still do (sans CPAP). I don't snore when sitting. When I am laying down, the big benefit is the total silence from me. It keeps me from snoring.

    Do I feel better in the morning? Nope. Did I lose weight (or any of the other WOO benefits you often see)? Hell no.

    Do I stop breathing (apnea) when I'm using the CPAP? Nope. They typically track and log your breathing, etc. I don't think I've logged a single occurrence in years. Miz Diane logs a few every night, even with the Bi-PAP (actually, they accidently issued me a Bi-PAP last time I got an upgrade...it is nice!).

    Testing issues:

    Test #1: You're in a strange place, you get hooked up to a EKG/EEG...so you have a cap on and wires all over you. Now, SLEEP NORMALLY. Yah, right. The bed they gave me was like a floor mat stapled to plywood. Yup, I woke up a lot. They diagnosed me and required me to do another test when they issued my unit.

    Test #2: they taught me how to use the unit and escorted me to a comfy hotel-like room. Better bed, quieter, no wires. Wow, you slept perfectly! That machine must be a miracle!
     
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    my personal experience, and talking to friends.... they ask if you snore. if so, get the study done. who does not snore at least some, sometime
     
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    There are serious repercussions of sleep apnea. As mentioned, google it.

    My wife observed me not breathing at night, over and over again. I would snore loudly, then ... stop breathing ... sometimes for a longish time ... then gasp in air and go back to snoring. As you can imagine, she was not impressed.

    My sleep test found I had severe aprea (50 times an hour) that was both obstructive (blocked windpipe) and central (brain doesn't send signal to breath -- yikes!) .

    I must be claustrophobic because the mask I wore in my sleep study freaked me out -- I thought I was being suffocated and nearly dashed out of the study office. They had to dope me up with sleeping pills.

    I'm using a CPAP machine now, but with this sort of mask that, while looking stupid, doesn't bother me.

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    All I can say is that other ones look like they are out of Silence Of The Lambs.

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    Using the CPAP machine I don't snore and my apnea events have got down to practically zero.

    The cost of the machine was covered by my health insurance.

    Do I think this is a scam and they would claim every single person has sleep apnea? No, but I'm a trusting Canadian.
     
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    Yah, that's the kind I use ("nose pillow" is what mine are called). Miz Diane uses the face mask type. I started out with the face mask but never could get a decent seal.
     
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    Dying in my sleep is the least of my worries. In fact, when the day (or night) comes, I hope that's the way I go. My biggest worry is living with the side affects of sleep apnea & the resulting lack of oxygen to the brain for years and years. Dementia is the one that concerns me the most.
     
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    If you are a CPAP user, and you install a backup generator, it MAY be tax deductible (in the US) as a medical device. As always, situations and circumstances may vary so check with your tax adviser.
     
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    I've heard of the walrus that prefered a tight seal.

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    It's about the difference between good sleep and not good sleep.
     
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    You might also check with your power company. When there's a power outage they have a "people priority" list of houses to be restored first, if possible, like folks who use a clinical oxygen generator.
     
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    You don't die directly but you do die when you fall asleep at the wheel and hit a bridge abutment due to the lack of sleep caused by sleep apnea ...
     
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    I was kicked out of my dorm at school, guys five rooms down couldn't sleep through my snoring LOL
    Fast forward many years later (around 1997 ish) and due to all kinds of issues including chest pains, high blood pressure and depression, I got the sleep test done.
    Turns out I was about as bad as you can get and stay alive.
    I've been on a Cpap machine since and cant sleep without it.

    I lost a good deal of cognitive ability during those non sleeping years and still feel the effects today.
    My ability to concentrate is far better now, however its still a struggle.

    Think about going night after night with both sleep and oxygen depravation and the effect o your overall health and to some degree your mental stability.

    And yes Apnea can kill you ! Cardiac arrest due to a lack of oxygen
     
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  18. Stubee

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    People can pass a sleep apnea test. My wife who snores, thrashes & has ‘night terrors’ has trouble sleeping well but showed no apnea episodes.

    I was tested at my GP’s request (I was always tired) and showed 12 apnea episodes per hour. I got a CPAP machine and frankly, I love it. I wouldn’t say it made me feel like a new man, but I sleep well and have dreams again. I didn’t realize until I started the CPAP that I hadn’t dreamed for several years.

    My machine is a Resmed H2O with a Mirage Fx nose mask. It works well for me but I do know guys who just don’t like the whole CPAP thing. Most of them are exhausted during the day.

    I use it because I was afraid I’d become even stupider (dementia) if I didn’t.
     
  19. PhatBoy

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    Reggie White died from it. Lost his breathing never regained it, even at the hospital ER.
     
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  20. slickoneuk

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    Hey All
    I had a heart attack last September, as part of the docs follow up they asked me to fill out a questionnaire about sleep apnea. I filled it out and they ordered a sleep test. Overnight test with a box strapped to my mid chest and a couple of sensors. Results came back with chronic sleep apnea. I averaged 42 events per hour where I stopped breathing and the longest event that night I stopped breathing for 55 seconds. So, I got a CPAP machine. It is truely terrible to sleep with but I do feel better for using it.
     
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