Things you can’t explain/paranormal?

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I spent tons of time in grave yards as a kid because my Mother did gravestone rubbings.
She had a series of cards with notable carvings on them, all 1600s & 1700s.
One day many years later I was teaching boat building to teens in a CETA funded program with similar education in journalism at Salt Magazine, a Maine magazinf about forgotten old ways.
A group from the journalist program was going to see a mass grave from I think the Revolutinary War.
Story was a battle between land and sea resulted in piles of bodies, many being sailors not recognizable as British or American.
So a mass grave and a stone telling the story.
I was invited to come on the nice sunny day, and managed to find some rice paper and a lumber marking crayon.

We got there and our access was climbing over a granite post iron rail fence. As we climbed over the sun went away and a cold wind came up.
Trying to wrap a three foot piece of rice paper around a stone in the wind is tricky.
But suddenly it grabbed on and clung to the stone.
OK wind could do that sorta.
Did not FEEL like just the wind but feelings are unreliable.
Did a fair rubbing and went home where I rented a room with a family who had an art gallery in the house.
The mom of the house, Beth, was creeped out by the rubbing before I told her the story. She wanted me to get it out of the house so I at least took it out of the living room to the bottom of the stars to my room, sort of in the house front entry room.

I went back in the LR with Beth and a few minutes later a floor lamp in that front room turned ON by itself.
I do not consider any of the days notable moments to be evidence, but it was an interesting day!
 
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I have no belief in the supernatural. Everything has a scientific explanation. If something can't be explained, it is because we haven't learned the science behind it. If we look at history, things that were considered supernatural in the past have been explained via our expanding scientific knowledge.
 

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I have no belief in the supernatural. Everything has a scientific explanation. If something can't be explained, it is because we haven't learned the science behind it. If we look at history, things that were considered supernatural in the past have been explained via our expanding scientific knowledge.
To your point though, is it not also possible that science and magic might actually be the same thing? It's just a matter of not knowing the "why" yet.

E.G. Let's just say for the sake of argument, ghosts and aliens do in fact exist. I’m sure there would, eventually, be some kind of “science” that explains it. I mean, isn't science at its core simply a way of understanding things? So just because science is real doesn't necessarily mean that anything supernatural or otherworldly could not also real. My opinion anyway. I love discussing this kind of stuff.
 

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Not really paranormal - but my creepiest experience:

My maternal grandfather died before I was born, but he cast a long shadow. He was a farmer and involved in various agriculture concerns, including the board of directors for Farmland Industries. We lived on the Kansas wheat farm that he inherited from his father, and my grandfather built the house I grew up in.

On the Farmland Industries board, he got to know Herb Clutter, a Kansas farmer and the father of the family murdered in the movie/book "In Cold Blood." In case you're unfamiliar, the Clutter murders were a random act of intense violence, and shocked the U.S., especially families in the rural Midwest.

When I was 11, In Cold Blood movie was on TV, and my parents let my brothers and I stay up to watch. About 30 minutes into the movie, my dad asks my mom "did he look like that?" My mom said "Kind of - he wasn't as handsome and he was shorter." We kids were flabbergasted and asked Mom about Mr. Clutter. She told us that, after my grandfather died, Mr Clutter came to the farm to pay his respects. She pointed at the sofa and said "he sat right there." I was completely freaked out.

It still gives me chills - the man brutally murdered on TV had once sat in that room.

No ghosts, no weird lights or noises. Just a brush with pure evil.
 

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To your point though, is it not also possible that science and magic might actually be the same thing? It's just a matter of not knowing the "why" yet.

E.G. Let's just say for the sake of argument, ghosts and aliens do in fact exist. I’m sure there would, eventually, be some kind of “science” that explains it. I mean, isn't science at its core simply a way of understanding things? So just because science is real doesn't necessarily mean that anything supernatural or otherworldly could not also real. My opinion anyway. I love discussing this kind of stuff.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Arthur C. Clarke

The odds are in favor of life on other planets. so I guess I'd say I believe we are not alone. I don't believe in ghosts. People who believe in ghosts often say the ghost looked at them. The physics of our sight needs solid materials. There has never in the written history of people been proof of a ghost or a god. Only hearsay. No way to prove the un-provable.
 

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Well, here’s my only tale of the unknown:

One cold night, my wife and I were stargazing way out in the boonies. It was one of those nights when you could see the Milky Way. I spotted something way up high, a tiny white dot, moving across the sky on a straight course - - a satellite of course. As we watched, we were quite surprised to see it come to an abrupt halt. Because it was no longer moving, it was hard to see it against the stars - - until it shot off like a meteor, leaving a brief tail behind it. We were pretty weirded out and were glad we’d both seen it.

Many years later, I told this to a retired Navy jet pilot and asked whether he had any idea what could do that. He said “no” and nothing more.
Not to one up ya, but i had a experience in the 70s that was much crazier and rather scary. A friend and I would occasionally go off to the desert to do some shooting or hunting. Back then there were some areas out in the high desert of L.A. county where we would just hang out and shoot then stay overnite in a vehicle then shoot again the next day and leave that evening. Granted, it was near the edwards air base bu7t trust me, this had nothing to do with them, at least not directly. After the first day of shooting we went into town and ate then came back and pulled off the road and had a few beers than were about to go to sleep when we saw some crazy things. We saw what looked like burning embers falling to earth but they were many miles high and coming down slowly one after another all taking the same path. It was strange and i don't recall what came of them, whether they burned out before the came to the ground or what. This after all was what.....50 + years ago. Anyways, i don't know what they were or how if at all they might have been related to what we saw next, but the next thing was infinitely stranger. If you are familir with UFO videos and stories thereof, this migh just sound like another one. The difference between this and the majority of them tho was that this one was low to the ground and came within a very close distance to us. Probably as close as 1/8 or at most 1/4 mile away and was below the trees at times or just at the tops. I don't recall it being a metallic craft but as big as a craft but just a very bright glowing light. The thing that made it completely explainable was like you hear in many ufo stories or see in videos....it at times would shoot off at a speed that was so fast it would instantly be a mile from where it just was. The thing about stories like this is they don't seem crazy when u r just reading about it because you don't know if it's true or if it was something that could have been explained bt the person telling the story just hasn't tried to explain it away and that if YOU had been there maybe YOU could have. Well, i get that because when i read accounts from others that how i think. But trust me on this, i DID try to explain it away, but we we so close to it at times and out in the middle of nowhere there just wasn't anything i could imagine that could come close to explaining this. After all those years the memory isn't as clear as i wish it was but what i do remember is how shocked were were. THAT is clear after 50 years. I recall clearly how freaked out we were. Actually to the point we pulled our guns out of the cases and loaded them and that nite slept with them loaded and nearby. Also, and this may be wrong because memory has faded, but i think after that thing was gone we saw more of those glowing "embers coming down. In any case i'm glad i experienced that because it puts everything i have read or seen in videos since in perspective.
 

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Not to one up ya, but i had a experience in the 70s that was much crazier and rather scary. A friend and I would occasionally go off to the desert to do some shooting or hunting. Back then there were some areas out in the high desert of L.A. county where we would just hang out and shoot then stay overnite in a vehicle then shoot again the next day and leave that evening. Granted, it was near the edwards air base bu7t trust me, this had nothing to do with them, at least not directly. After the first day of shooting we went into town and ate then came back and pulled off the road and had a few beers than were about to go to sleep when we saw some crazy things. We saw what looked like burning embers falling to earth but they were many miles high and coming down slowly one after another all taking the same path. It was strange and i don't recall what came of them, whether they burned out before the came to the ground or what. This after all was what.....50 + years ago. Anyways, i don't know what they were or how if at all they might have been related to what we saw next, but the next thing was infinitely stranger. If you are familir with UFO videos and stories thereof, this migh just sound like another one. The difference between this and the majority of them tho was that this one was low to the ground and came within a very close distance to us. Probably as close as 1/8 or at most 1/4 mile away and was below the trees at times or just at the tops. I don't recall it being a metallic craft but as big as a craft but just a very bright glowing light. The thing that made it completely explainable was like you hear in many ufo stories or see in videos....it at times would shoot off at a speed that was so fast it would instantly be a mile from where it just was. The thing about stories like this is they don't seem crazy when u r just reading about it because you don't know if it's true or if it was something that could have been explained bt the person telling the story just hasn't tried to explain it away and that if YOU had been there maybe YOU could have. Well, i get that because when i read accounts from others that how i think. But trust me on this, i DID try to explain it away, but we we so close to it at times and out in the middle of nowhere there just wasn't anything i could imagine that could come close to explaining this. After all those years the memory isn't as clear as i wish it was but what i do remember is how shocked were were. THAT is clear after 50 years. I recall clearly how freaked out we were. Actually to the point we pulled our guns out of the cases and loaded them and that nite slept with them loaded and nearby. Also, and this may be wrong because memory has faded, but i think after that thing was gone we saw more of those glowing "embers coming down. In any case i'm glad i experienced that because it puts everything i have read or seen in videos since in perspective.
Both of those are interesting. And you know what? You describe perfectly (in the first incident) something the wife and I saw - - we were in the car and thought we were seeing a plane on fire falling to earth. We were freaked out enough that we called 911 and asked whether there had been any reports of a crash. There were none. But there was unquestionably fire in the sky. Later, though, I heard an amateur astronomer talking about daytime sightings of meteors, and it sounded a lot like what we’d seen. So I accepted that explanation. And I also saw video of the huge meteor that fell in Russia a few years ago, and that looked familiar. But as to your other sighting . . . . yeah, that’s noteworthy.
 

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Both of those are interesting. And you know what? You describe perfectly (in the first incident) something the wife and I saw - - we were in the car and thought we were seeing a plane on fire falling to earth. We were freaked out enough that we called 911 and asked whether there had been any reports of a crash. There were none. But there was unquestionably fire in the sky. Later, though, I heard an amateur astronomer talking about daytime sightings of meteors, and it sounded a lot like what we’d seen. So I accepted that explanation. And I also saw video of the huge meteor that fell in Russia a few years ago, and that looked familiar. But as to your other sighting . . . . yeah, that’s noteworthy.
Well, to be honset that was notable so i mentioned it. But by itself it wouldn't have been something that i felt theres no explanation for, nor would it have freaked me out. I couldn't think of an explanation but i can see how there may be. On the other hand that UFO was the real freak out. That i couldn't imagine any possible explanation for. I wondered if the 2 were related tho. They could have just happend near each other by coincidence.
 

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Count me as one of those that have seen what appeared to be a satellite make several turns. I dunno, this wasn’t that long ago, a drone maybe?

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Mrs Killing and I were staying at a pre-revolutionary B&B once. We went to sleep the first night, and when I woke up in the morning, I couldn’t sit up and had a splitting headache. She helped me out of bed, and as soon as we exited the house, the headache cleared. I didn’t think much of it. The next night, we woke up to noises in our room, and I figured there was a rodent somewhere. That was right up until the hangers in the closet started swinging and banging together, the wastebasket began to shake, and the room keys flew across the room. We didn’t get much sleep the rest of the night and checked out at first light. Found out later that the building was the location of some kind of cult meeting, and that they were still using the building to this day. Can’t explain what we experienced, but it sure didn’t feel natural.
 

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Once I was wondering if McDs ever wrapped a cheeseburger in a hamburger wrapper by mistake. So I get up to the register and ordered 2 hamburgers and one of them was a cheeseburger. That's all I have.
I love it. You would be amazed at what happens if you worked there, or if you frequent them today. These days it’s a language problem. No one speaks English as their first language there any longer. You go back to explain, they look at you as if it’s you that are some sort of paranormal being!
 

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I once spent a decade traveling for the government. I stayed at a hotel in Altus, Oklahoma. The third night I was there I was sleeping soundly when I became *instantly* wide-awake. Now think about that for a moment...the only time we ever go from deep sleep to wide-awake is with a loud sound or a strong shake.

I was instantly awake, and became aware that the air inside the room seemed to swirling--the window blinds that overlooked the indoor pool were moving and the air seemed to be "swooshing". I instinctively reached for the nightstand lamp and turned it on as I sat straight up. The "swooshing" stopped.

Instead of being motivated to get up and look around (a natural human reaction, right?), my response was to reach for the lamp again and turn it off. I fell back into a hard sleep and didn't wake again until the alarm went off at 6:30 that morning.

I awoke and went to the bath room, and brushed my teeth. It was only halfway through shaving that I even remembered what had took place in the middle of the night. I went on with my day and didn't really think of it again.

TWO YEARS later I received the same assignment, Altus, Oklahoma. I stayed at the same hotel. One night that week I took advantage of the indoor hottub. I met two local girls in the hottub who confessed that they had snuck in to use the tub--they weren't staying there. As we were talking, they mentioned that allegedly the hotel had been built on a Indian burial ground. They went on to say that there were rumors that hotel staff had heard un-explained and strange noises eminating from the kitchen, usually in the middle of the night when it was far past closing. The rumors were that the hotel was haunted.

I still don't really know what happened that night.
Two local girls in the hot tub and you're telling us ghost stories?
 
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