The used gear market a threat for online retailers?

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  1. braveheart

    braveheart Tele-Afflicted

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    When I take a look at my buying behaviour in recent years, I realize, that I very rarely buy new stuff anymore, because you can get everything waaaaay cheaper when you buy used

    Because of the internet and the powerful platforms like Reverb or Craiglist, the used market is bigger than ever.

    So how is your used/new ratio?

    Can that be a threat for online retailers or at least a big loss of profit?
     
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    I have a massive amount of gear, way too much to use, but the silliest part is nearly all of it was given to me, I have stated before that the market is flooded with gear , and just because a piece of gear is not the latest greatest , it still functionsas it was intended, point in question the Mackie ultra 34 this looks like a patch bay with a small fader bank , obsolete for many tears , I was given one , it turns out that this unit can turn an analog mixer into full automation , say what???????
    And now these pieces of gear are dirt cheap by all standards

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    as for my ratio of new to used , 90% used at least maybe even more
     
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    Yes, this is a huge problem for guitar makers, and it's why they're constantly shifting options and features and issuing new models.

    They're in business to sell guitars. When sales are up, the corporate board is mucho happy. However, the more they sell--the greater the number in the resale market.

    Finding and maintaining a balance between profitability and continued product demand is very difficult. Gibson's recent misadventures are a good example of this.
     
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    98% used, I'd say. I can count on one hand the pieces of new gear I've bought over the last 30 years.
     
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    absolutely right...I bought some old 80s/90s synthesizers (Rack units) like the Roland JV 2080 for 200 $. It was a Roland flagship back then.
    This "hit machine" is on thousands of platinum 90s albums. Even by todays standards it sounds great and is still used on top albums...a legend

    Yeah,like you, I also love to buy legendary old "flagship"stuff, that was once expensive and now cheap, because technology has moved on or the product is "out of style"...

    I bought great tube 19" preamps(Engl, Marshall,Kitty Hawk etc),BOSS GT-8, multi fx,mixer,drum machines,synths for almost nothing and recently a rare G-Art 19" Midi switching system (with a heavy footcontroller), originally designed for the Scorpions' "Crazy World" Tour 91' by the Palmer boss...for 170 $
     
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    1/3 I purchased new. Someone purchased the other 2/3 new. So 100% was new at some point. I included the ones I sold, or traded. The ones that were purchased new I still own. Seems the ones purchased used come, and go.
     
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    Do you still have all of those speakers that someone gave to you a couple of years ago?
     
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    Not a threat, just competition of different sorts.
     
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    Let me ask you first, how much gear did you buy new?
     
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    90% used...have only bought some pedals new...to which are now discontinued.
     
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    I would say no.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/guitar.com/news/industry-news/fender-sales-record-2020/?amp
     
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    Back in the day the local guitar store used to sell me trade in guitars .
    Owner would give them to me for what he paid. Sadly they are gone now.
    Mostly new stuff now.
     
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    I mostly buy used as well. There are many manufacturers and the music gear market is absolutely flooded with equipment. Just walk into any Pawn Shop. My most recent purchase was a Boss ME80 for 1/3 the cost of a new one. Of course, some new gear has to be purchased because, well, it is newly released, like my Line6 PodGo.

    Baby Boomers were gear heads. Percentage wise, not so much today's generation. As we Boomers age out, we stop playing and sell off our gear.
     
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    aaahm...WHAT?:confused: o_O I don't get your logic...
     
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    until ca. 2010 90% , now 1%...

    The last pieces of gear I bought new:a Gretsch (2014), a DV Mark Tube Marker (2019), Radial Booster (2015) and a Fulltone GT500 (2016)
     
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    Not in my buy-o-sphere.
     
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    yes ive given away about 4 of them so far and have used a few , but I have no shortage of them at all LOL
     
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    I buy directly from Japan & typically those that buy from me are in the US.
    I rarely by new items but it happens once in a blue moon but it has to be pretty damn rare for me to buy new.

    These two guitars are the only ones I purchased new over at least a ten year period & these could never be sourced in the US at a retail B&M.

    one piece body Mango Explorer with insanely grained Mango neck
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    super rare Jeff Beck type in a gold top
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    Most of what I buy new is from Custom builders. Other than that at least 90% of my gear was bought used.
     
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    Last new guitar I bought for myself was in 1999.

    I have only bought used guitars since then.

    Over the last 21 years, I've bought and sold quite a few used guitars and basses.

    At this moment I feel like I've got an amazing collection of quality used guitars that I'm very happy with.

    I don't think I'll ever buy a new guitar for the rest of my life.
     
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