The Ugly Truth from my Dito Looper X2

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  1. Mr powers

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    I have the house to myself for a few days so I decided to plug in and play over some chord changes using my Dito Looper.

    Brutal.

    If you wanna test yourself to see how well you can play over changes, it's a good way to hear some ugly truths.

    I'm not saying it's not fun...I'm just saying it's a good way to assess your progress, good or bad.

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  2. RoscoeElegante

    RoscoeElegante Friend of Leo's

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    Yep, same here. I've canceled and re-done just-for-me simple loops many times. "Gawd, that's sloppy!" I've trained the dog to say.

    It's also a great way to hear your leads' phrasings. It can tell you what to let resonate, what to push, when you're overdoing the reverb, etc.

    Great tool. An honest friend with an erasable memory!
     
  3. Wildcard_35

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    Yes, I would play through my looper pedal more if it didn't constantly remind me that sometimes I sound like a 14 year old who has just learned his first pentatonic scale. To cut some slack, though, it's usually chords to a song I don't normally play and I tell myself I'm just messing around. Maybe it's a valuable exercise in being kind to myself?
     
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    Yup, truth hurts, but helps in the long run. To me, the looper is the best tool for a guitarist.

    The truth still hurts though.:oops:
     
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    There are few better ways to get better than hear yourself on playback. I wish I had more time with my Ditto+.
    As RoscoeElegante said, “An honest friend with an erasable memory!”
     
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    Heck it took me a while just to use the looper properly. I have a RP1000 and I play along. Then I have this bad habit of trying to sound too busy with the backing track. Woof. Barf.
     
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    I record a simple 1, 4 5 blues progression and then I play that back with my dito.
    The challenge for me is to play over those changes.
    I don't record the lead.
    I can hear what's working and what's sucking in real time.
     
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    I’ll lay down a backing track and layer it with whatever I want to work on. It can be brutal but I can really judge my progress or lack of
     
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    A few short sessions with my Ditto Looper scared the hell out out of me. Now I'm afraid to even plug it in.
     
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    Yep...loopers are mean. They show no mercy. Just getting the timing of starting / stopping the loop can break you.
    Then they remind you of why you should spend some more quality time with a metronome.
     
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    I've tried that, both for practicing and recording. But I keep hearing the damn metronome, and listening to it too much to check if I can hear it. And even watching the mechanical one/digital image. I have to close my eyes to get the rhythm right!

    So a looper is right for me, especially since my robot drummer smoked his own batteries and ran off with my imaginary groupies. (All 1/64th's of them.)
     
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    When I started taking lessons in 2017 my instructor blew me away with the simple Ditto.

    I have pretty much been using a looper every day for practice every since and it's helped a lot. For a long time my setup was a Beat Buddy Mini into a Ditto. I could start the beat buddy and use that to help lock me down to the beat as I recorded my first loop.

    Last year I got an RC-10r and sold the BBM. I kept the ditto just as an extra tool to have around. Usually I do play a drum rhythm + loop in sync on my RC-10r. Recently I was trying to use it with no rhythm and I couldn't nail the loop.. weird. Turns out it does something odd with when it ends, like even when you have the rhythm section turned off it is keeping an internal tempo and doesn't necessarily agree with you.

    I just plugged in my simple ditto.. at least it is honest. I didn't really have any trouble getting in sync without any metronome/drums, so I guess I've gotten better... but then there is WHAT are you going to play over those changes?
     
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    Great thread. Yeah the best way to see how good you really are is to use a ditto, or any other simple looper. I got a ditto the first year they came out. Prior to that, I’d record a rhythm track on my old Tascam 4 track cassette, rewind it, put headphones on, and play along. If I was in the groove, I would try to get all four tracks down. Anyway, listening back, I could hear where my rhythm was off, leads were off, all of it. Occasionally I would get things right. But more often than not, I would just record over the crap, and eventually it helped me with my timing, tuning, etc. But still these days, I like to use the Boss RC1, simple enough to use, but really helps me to stay focused on whatever it is I happen to be playing.
     
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    Lmao! I totally get what you’re saying. I can play great guitar when all the stars are aligned in perfect harmony. And I can also play like I did when I was ten, horribly banging out the riff to “I cant get no, I can’t get no, satisfaction “ the first Stones song I figured out in 1964.
     
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    I love my jamman. I use the original Trio just to loop some drums.... Then add a rhythm chord... Save them then play over it. Ezpz sounds good enough to busk with actually.
     
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    Yeah I’ve been there a lot. Tons of good guitars and pedals, my favorite Fender old Hot Rod Deluxe and then I start looping. Half of the time, I love how I’m playing, and think “ I’ve played so long, no wonder I sound so good.” Then other days I sound so ****ty that I think, “ Good lord, how can I have played for so long and still be this bad?” Who am I trying to fool? But it’s still fun, I will always play.
     
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    I wanted one of those jam man pedals but instead got this thing called the Beat Buddy. To me, it’s useless and a pain to play with. Why? Because I got it thinking I could loop with my ditto or boss. In reality, I can’t sync the drum machine with my loops.
     
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    Yes, it's like a metronome with a chord sequence. But it will make you better!
     
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    The truth may differ from what you want it to be, but knowing it is infinitely better than believing something else.
     
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