The tone disappears when I use my volume pedal (boss fv 500h)

[emilgreen16473]

I have a Taylor T5 guitar, it has an active piezo and is powered by a 9 volt battery.

I have a Boss FV 500h volume pedal.

My signal chain on my pedal board looks like this:

Shure GLXD16 (wireless) -> Blonde (Tech 21 NYC)- > mad professor forrest green compressor -> Xotic RC Booster -> BJF Sea Blue EQ (clean boost) -> tc electronic flashback x4 -> tc electronic - hall of fame reverb -> Boss FV 500h -> Radial Engineering Pro DI (passive DI box)

ATTENTION!
The red pedal (mic mechanic, tc-helicon) is not part of the signal chain, it is by itself.


I want to use my volume pedal as a master volume pedal and nothing else. For example, when I turn on my distortion pedal, I want full gain regardless of how my volume pedal is set.
When my volume pedal is maxed out, I have my full tone and the sound I want, but as soon as I turn the volume down with it, I lose tone and my guitar sound becomes "muddy" and the crispness and treble disappear.

I've tried putting the volume pedal at the front of my chain but then it acts more like a volume and gain knob and I don't want that, it should just work as a master volume simply.
I tried going into the volume pedal directly with the guitar and then into my amp, then it does what I want, so there must be something going on when the signal goes through my pedal board.

Any suggestions what could be wrong?

 

[schmee]

I cant use a volume pedal with my electrics. It's definitely a tone killer. I have tried several brands. I would think you'd be a bit more successful with the acoustic electric though, but it will still change for sure..
I just get used to using the volume on the guitar. But that changes things too if you think about it, less so if you have treble bleed.

 

[Swirling Snow]

Whatever you're plugging in to the Boss is being loaded down by the volume control. Maybe a buffer between the two would help.

 

[erratick]

I have a Taylor T5 guitar, it has an active piezo and is powered by a 9 volt battery.

I have a Boss FV 500h volume pedal.

My signal chain on my pedal board looks like this:

Shure GLXD16 (wireless) -> Blonde (Tech 21 NYC)- > mad professor forrest green compressor -> Xotic RC Booster -> BJF Sea Blue EQ (clean boost) -> tc electronic flashback x4 -> tc electronic - hall of fame reverb -> Boss FV 500h -> Radial Engineering Pro DI (passive DI box)

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ATTENTION!
The red pedal (mic mechanic, tc-helicon) is not part of the signal chain, it is by itself.


I want to use my volume pedal as a master volume pedal and nothing else. For example, when I turn on my distortion pedal, I want full gain regardless of how my volume pedal is set.
When my volume pedal is maxed out, I have my full tone and the sound I want, but as soon as I turn the volume down with it, I lose tone and my guitar sound becomes "muddy" and the crispness and treble disappear.

I've tried putting the volume pedal at the front of my chain but then it acts more like a volume and gain knob and I don't want that, it should just work as a master volume simply.
I tried going into the volume pedal directly with the guitar and then into my amp, then it does what I want, so there must be something going on when the signal goes through my pedal board.

Any suggestions what could be wrong?

Does your amp have an effects loop? Put the pedals in that.

If not:

Sometimes with volume pedals, especially passive ones, I need a quality buffer in the chain. Sometimes needs to be at the beginning, sometimes before it hits the amp.

 

[cousinpaul]

Put the volume pedal after your FX chain.

 

[JustABluesGuy]

For use as a master volume I would try it in the effects loop.

Also try setting up with the volume rolled back a bit. That way you instead of loosing treble when rolling back, you will gain treble as you increase the volume.

It’s a subtle difference and takes some getting used to.

 

[2HBStrat]

I have a Taylor T5 guitar, it has an active piezo and is powered by a 9 volt battery.

I have a Boss FV 500h volume pedal.

My signal chain on my pedal board looks like this:

Shure GLXD16 (wireless) -> Blonde (Tech 21 NYC)- > mad professor forrest green compressor -> Xotic RC Booster -> BJF Sea Blue EQ (clean boost) -> tc electronic flashback x4 -> tc electronic - hall of fame reverb -> Boss FV 500h -> Radial Engineering Pro DI (passive DI box)

View attachment 1083270

ATTENTION!
The red pedal (mic mechanic, tc-helicon) is not part of the signal chain, it is by itself.


I want to use my volume pedal as a master volume pedal and nothing else. For example, when I turn on my distortion pedal, I want full gain regardless of how my volume pedal is set.
When my volume pedal is maxed out, I have my full tone and the sound I want, but as soon as I turn the volume down with it, I lose tone and my guitar sound becomes "muddy" and the crispness and treble disappear.

I've tried putting the volume pedal at the front of my chain but then it acts more like a volume and gain knob and I don't want that, it should just work as a master volume simply.
I tried going into the volume pedal directly with the guitar and then into my amp, then it does what I want, so there must be something going on when the signal goes through my pedal board.

Any suggestions what could be wrong?

Often overlooked is the need for a treble bleed circuit in a volume pedal so that the tone stays the same at any volume.

 

[TurtlesnTanlines]

With my T5, I put the Volume pedal before delay and reverb. I also set my guitar volume at 50-75%. Never maxed.

Lastly, the T5 is not Piezo equipped. It’s 2 Humbuckers and a Body Sensor (microphone). Positions 2 & 4 react the best to Electric rigs.

I’ll test out moving my volume pedal later with my T5 and let you know what I find.