The tinfoil hat wearing Flat Earth Society is now invading our space

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  1. Blue Bill

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    I'll bet someone will eventually be selling "sacred pitch" 432-based tuners, for twice the price of "bio-hazard 440" tuners. :lol:

    BDLove Handles, that experiment is cool, but what on earth does it mean? Is every A power chord I play disorganizing my DNA? I'm so confused.
     
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    I am guessing that for No Surprises the band tuned to the glockenspiel.
     
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    Those are Chladni Figures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Chladni:

    In quantum mechanics, Chladni figures ("nodal patterns") are known to be related to the solutions of the Schrödinger equation for one-electron atoms, and the mathematics describing them was used by Erwin Schrödinger to arrive at the understanding of electron orbitals.

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    I was told there would be no math.

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    Well that clears things right up, thanks! Isn't Schro(insert 2 dots)dinger the guy that kept his poor cat in that horrid box?
     
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    Better stop playing music.;)
     
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    I don't think all of this is deserving of black helicopters so much as

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    this was clearly prior to sucking on chili dog outside the tasti freez
     
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    WEEELLLLL there is that.
     
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    Two of my favorite songs, too! I always thought FIIL was flat, but never thought about No Surprises.
     
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    To many ears it jumps out a little. If you tune your guitar 10 cents shop you may get a little extra oomph. I’m guessing just enough orchestras liked 440 and that’s how it happened. d. It wasn’t the nazis.


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    I wondered whether that might be the case, but no:


    I compared this to the recording, and the live version is definitely sharper, and sounds like 440 to my ears. But in the spirit of this thread, just to check further, I went to the King of Gear site to find what glockenspiel it is, and discovered it's a Premier 6801 Orchestral Glockenspiel. This is no longer in production. According to the Premier website, their current model glockenspiel is tuned to... A442. Whether things were any different in the 1990s, I don't know. What I do know is that the glockenspiel was also used on Morning Bell/Amnesiac and Sit Down. Stand Up. to name but two, and both of those tracks seem to be standard tuning.
     
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    Buzz "Don't **** With Me" Aldrin.

    The single greatest moment in manned space exploration...
     
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    Quality research!
     
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    Wow!, I haven't seen the ROFLcopter for years!.

    Good find :)
     
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    Could be. I'm guessing too. So why did people like Tesla ans Verdi feel so strongly about it? And while the nazis may not have been the driving force, apparently Goebbels was very interested in the topic and was outspokenly convinced that 432 caused people to feel comfortable and compassionate, while 440 caused them to feel uncomfortable and aggressive. Inquiring minds want to know. The US government did adopt 440 as the ISO 16 standard for manufacturing. Why should they care?

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    Tone foil?
     
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    OK getting ready for the backlash, but history proves this actually was the case. Also didn't SRV and other artists tune down a half step to make their guitars sound fuller on recordings??? (Taking off the tinfoil hat now) What you're mentioning (actually 435Hz) was an international tuning standard proposed by the French in 1850s. However, during the Baroque era the pitch was lower, about half step lower in fact which would put you around 415-420Hz. Music of J.S.Bach and others around that period (1650-1750) was normally performed between 415-430.

    Now, here's where the fun begins... During Chopin's era pianos were actually tuned around A=457Hz!

    I think things didn't standardize around A=440 until 1930s or so.
     
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    It’s just a number.

    SRV tuned down a half step...a half step from what?
     
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    From standard tuning. A-440.... So E would become D#/Eb (enharmonic)you know it's basic music theory.
     
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