The tinfoil hat wearing Flat Earth Society is now invading our space

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  1. thunderbyrd

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    exactly.
     
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    I have access to a supply of 1958 NOS aluminum foil. How much you s'pose I could get for it?
     
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    Ok, back to the tuning standard for a moment.

    Hasn’t this fluctuated quite a bit over time? I recall reading about it on the inter webs not too long ago, so true obs, that 440 isn’t necessarily what an A in a pipe organ from the 16th century will be putting out.

    Anybody?

    Cheers,
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    Read a bit more. Weirdly some of it can’t be posted here because politics. Yes, the proper pitch of A has a political element. You can look it up. Anywho, the French used 435 back in the day. Some baroque stuff used 440. But for A#. There is some weird history behind this. Tinfoil hats were mentioned in one article I perused.

    Kinda interesting. But weird at the same time.

    Cheers,
    Geoff
     
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    Was there actually any kind of a standard in the 16th century? Kinda doubt it, but on the other hand I've always tuned to A444 because I'm just a little sharper than the average guy.
     
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    You’re probably right. When would the standard start to coalesce and where and would it be different in different locations depending on what the dominant instrument was?

    Cheers,
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    I guess the problem would be how to actually measure the tone. People don't hear things the same way and a device to reproduce the tone would probably have been impossible to mass produce in the 1500s.
     
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    The Earth is flat because it's tuned to 432. It would be 'round in tune if it was at 440. That's the real problem!
     
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    In your OP you didn't ask for anyone's opinion about the tuning.....in fact, all you did was ridicule it and lump it in with 'conspiracy' type stuff.....yet, you were expecting a discussion about the tuning.....what?????
     
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    A paper trail negates the effect!
     
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    Oh well, it only matters if you're playing with other instruments. I always play with myself so it doesn't really effect me, other than the possibility of going blind.
     
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    Oh Lordy, I know a guy who throws fits over tuning to 440 at blues jam sessions. I cannot stand playing with him. This arrogant man only hand-picks his jam sets (the other people he talks into tuning down), takes a super long time doing his soundcheck, takes lots of really long, really loud solos and plays 10 minute long medleys as his last song almost every time.
     
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    THAT IS REALLY FAKE NEWS:cool:
     
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    A CONTROL FREAK , to overstate the obvious.
    "knock it off or go away please" :cool:might be of assistance in helping him find his way to Jerusalem
     
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    I did not go to far in school butI never understood why NASA spent a lot of money so that they could ("fake news alert") take a picture of earth then photoshop it so they could make the world look round.
     
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    Thanks for your thoughtful impartial opinion. I take it to mean that you believer all the Zen BS about how 432 puts you at one with the universe, while 440 harms your inner peace beyond repair.
     
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    440, 441...whatever it takes.

    'Woo' is one of my great pet peeves and I spend an idiotic amount of time on FB reading and arguing about it. From anti-GMOers and vaxxers to chemtards and Flerfers (flat earthers) I am constantly amazed at the ignorant and often outright mentally unstable that have gained such a hold on social media. Used to be these nutters we limited to 2am short wave radio programs and passing around pages of conspiracy theories that were barely legible from being copied over and over again. Now they have to power of the interwebs to spread their nonsense. :(
     
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    A question that always comes to my mind when this topic comes up. What about people with what we call perfect pitch? When they pull a tone out of the air is it in line with A440? If the standard were to change to A432 or something else would they just adapt because they hear everything perfect relative to what is being played or would it really bother them because now people are not quite in tune?
     
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