The Special Tiger

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by MM73, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. Macrogats

    Macrogats Friend of Leo's

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    Outstanding radius!
     
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    That is one seriously scary looking bit!!! You have some serious.... ummmmm... you are a man of steel! :D
     
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    That bit is one reason I finally built a larger router table.

    Lifting the bit in tiny increments and using the pin was key. The pin really gives me a lot more confidence to ease the wood into the cut.

    And no way would I take that bit into the cutaway! Just nice, smooth passes on the sides. The rest of the edges will get a 1/8” roundover.

    Needless to say, this probably won’t be one of my frequently used bits!
     
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    Broke out the far more polite 1/8” radius bit to knock down the hard edges.
    I had to sand in the radius by hand on the curved edges.

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    Then routed the neck pocket.

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    This was the first time I used the actual neck for layout.

    The neck doesn’t quite fit.

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    Suppose I’ll need to sand the heel a bit.
     
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    Oh, there are so many poor quality bits and pieces for guitars out on the ‘net.

    I got my black strap buttons amongst some other hardware delivered yesterday.

    The screws seem to be #4 x 3/4 - seems kinda wimpy.

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    So, the screws will need to be replaced, and it will be a hastle ‘cause I want black.

    Got me thinking that even a good screw threaded into the end grain of poplar isn’t going to be terribly robust for the hard rocking this guitar is sure to experience (daydreaming again).

    So, idle hands that have not taken delivery of bridge or pickups yet will be determined to woodwork something...

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    3/4” holes drilled 1-1/4” deep from back side and plugged with a dowel to give the screws something to dig into.

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    The finish on this will be opaque, so no worries about appearance.

    Now, where to find #6 or #8 black screws that wont cost $12 to ship?
     
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    Just paint the bright painted available Hardware store screw head with black nail polish? It shouldn't get scratched up that much even if it were removed.
     
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    Changed my mind on the vintage Gotoh tuners after ordering a Hipshot bridge...the styles just don’t match.
    ...ordered Hipshot tuners.

    The tuners arrived :)

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    Reamed the holes to 10 mm.

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    ...and voila!

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    Feeling sinister :twisted:
     
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    Hip shot tuners are niiiiice. Looking good. As for the black screw issue, I agree with guitarbuilder. I use a black pot belly paint for small jobs like that.
     
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    Hipshot bridge arrived, and I certainly like the look.

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    Layout complete.

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    And 5 of 6 holes turned out alright...par for the course.

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    If I just touch the edge of both ferrules on the ROSS, it may look better than grinding on just one.

    Pickups also arrived; will route these cavities next.
     
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  10. Mat UK

    Mat UK Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Looking good - the bridge looks smart.

    Don't sweat about the ferrule holes - par for the course sometimes. You could always fit a string retainer block instead if it ends up bothering you

    What pickups are you going with?
     
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    I’ve been on this site long enough to know I don’t need to spend a lot on pickups...but I’ve wanted a pair of TV Jones’ since I first started reading reviews - strong mids for some growl but with good clarity. I understand this is a Gretsch sound. These pickups are compact and look great too.
    ...really looking forward to playing this one.

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    I ended up ordering a Classic for neck and Classic Plus for bridge.

    As far as ferrule holes go, I’ll give up building the day I get all 6 perfectly lined up.
    ...or start on a 7 string!

    Do you have a build in progress?
    I recall a beautiful black guitar you finished, but think you had two necks.
    ...I need to go back and check your build thread.
     
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    Learned a lesson on the last build when I routed the pickup cavities a touch shallow and had a hard time fitting all the wires under it.

    These pickup routes are 5/8” deep.

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    Then I NEEDED to cobble it all together in the interest of deciding controls layout.

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    I want to keep the Tigre simple a la Cabronita.
    But now I am torn on trying to get as much out of the pickups as possible.
     
  13. John Nicholas

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    The dowel trick is mighty cool and a clean solution to the softer Poplar. I've been ordering screws in bulk from All Parts, in the long run they are cheaper then the Chinese stuff sold on Ebay or elsewhere.

    I too am going down the Hipshot road. The new builds I'm working on (5 at the moment!) will all be getting Hipshot Bridges. I already have two sets of Gotoh tuners, a one set of Hipshot tuners, so some will be a mixed bag!!

    Yes, making sure the cavities are deep enough is something that's really important. I made the same mistake.

    The build is looking really good Mark!

    Looking forward to more progress pics!!
     
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    Great, that guitar is going to look/sound amazing I haven’t ventured too far away from humbuckers and single could, so will be interested to see how you get on with the TVs. That’s the beauty of designing something unique, there are no preconceived ideas of what components should or shouldn’t be used... well... apart from a body, neck, bridge, nut, frets, tuning machines, strings...

    I have a Jaguar style guitar that has sat untouched since November; I’ve been meaning to crack on with it - every evening I tell myself tomorrow is the day - life gets in the way :(

    Maybe I’ll start a new thread in an attempt to remotivate myself.

    You’ll have to forgive my questions if you’ve already stated the answers in previous posts. What’s the plan for the finish?
     
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    I'm really happy with the style of the Hipshot bridge and tuners. Especially for a custom build, I didn't want to put a traditional tele bridge onto it. The after market hardware keeps it unique.

    I don't think I had to put a pad under the pickups on the Captain Jack, the pickups were crushed against the wires!

    Thanks John - I'm glad to be back in the shop! Creative work is just plain fun.

    Well, I did start following the template of a Fender Cabronita. I wish I was a better player, as I'd have a better ideas about parts and function. For this one, I'll depart from the Cab and probably go with two volume knobs.

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    I played with layout a bit, and like the vertical stacked knobs with a pin jack through the bottom.

    The remaining hardware arrived also. I think I'm going to go with a black Tusq nut.

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    Get cracking!

    As with most builds, they evolve over time...and evolve a lot given even more time.
    For this one, I will have some kind of graphic on it, but I'm not sure just what it'll be now.
    This guitar has always been planned to be black and white, though. I'm sticking to that still!
     
  16. El Tele Lobo

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    That thing looks awesome! You’re gonna love the TV Jones. I’ve been following this thread for a long time… Back when you were working on another guitar, if I recall. I really admire your handiwork. Keep it up!
     
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    I’ve read that pinjacks may not be as durable as the standard switchcraft jack, but I like the look for this build.

    Besides, this will be my new guitar...no concern that this will be on a stage in front of the masses if the plug starts to fall out. My wife and kids are a forgiving audience.

    I’ve never installed a pin jack though.

    Proof of concept.

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    The cavity will be a bit tight at the bottom, but will work.

    ...let’s do the real thing : )
     
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    A little late but Firebird guts fit beautifully in Filtertron housings.
     
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    I kinda read a bit about Firebirds. People seem to really like the originals. I didn’t realize till now that they are a type of mini bucker.
    Are these the type that you make?
     
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    Hey MM,
    I am very familiar with the design and have tweaked it slightly. Johnny Winter was right on when he stated that his Firebird guitar played like a Gibson but sounded like a Fender. I agree with his similes but the pups are ballsier and quiet when compared to stock Fender Strat single coils. Just a great sounding design but very under-engineered from a construction perspective when compared to a PAF, which is a very well thought out design.

    Also of note, while the Firebird pickup is technically a humbucker, its magnet array is of a completely different design when compared to a poled Gibson mini humbucker. Tonally, they are worlds apart as well.
    Rob
     
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