The secret punch on TV and in movies

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  1. Solrac Kai

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    Yes and No, I will break it down to you like this as taught at the dojo I train at. First form of self defense is to not put yourself into a position where you have to fight. IE don’t walk down dark alleys late at night, ignore insults, walk away, or if you have to run away. This covers just about 99% of situations. If the 1% happens then you fight until the threat is ended using every means available to you.
     
  2. LutherBurger

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    Marksmanship (which I acknowledge as a legitimate sport and an enjoyable pastime) aside, I must respectfully disagree. I believe that any martial art that doesn't teach you how to fight and win is just dancing, and any mention of "chi" just reeks of bullshido.
     
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    Well, you could apply that logic to any martial arts instructor.
    You could apply that logic to any sports coach.
    You could apply that logic to any music teacher. Etc, etc, etc

    A good teacher is a good teacher. A poor teacher is .....
     
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    Brilliant!
     
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    Not universally true. Depends who you train with and how they teach.

    Aikido is primarily designed to deal with a committed (aka battlefield) type of attack. The responses to an attack of this nature can be very dangerous (e.g. irimi nage, which is derived from a move that flips the attacker and drops them on their head/neck). It takes time to learn control. I'd agree that if all you want to do is learn how to fight, boxing, krav etc would be a better bet, as proficiency is gained more quickly.
     
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    Rokas? Hmmm. His aikido is not what I'd call good quality.

    Still, I agree - you fight like you train. Aikido (like almost any other art) is not homogeneous, though.
     
  8. LutherBurger

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    That was an excellent pimp-slap before the first time-out... nice and loud.
     
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    All this video showed was the loser was not fighting with the desire to win and had already lost before the punch or kick. It wouldn't matter what form he was practicing.
     
  10. strat a various

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    I wouldn't call a formal teacher who isn't trying to prep his students for full contact competition a poor teacher. There are dojos that teach the "Art", and the attendees want exercise and the tranquility and harmony of perfecting the Art ... then there are dojos that purport to prepare the students for full contact competition and/or a street fight. Two different mindsets. I've seen "poor" senseis in both molds.
     
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    That's one opinion. The best fighters I've known learned to fight before studying Jiu-Jitsu or boxing. Also, the best guitar players I have known learned how to play before they took lessons.
     
  12. Solrac Kai

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    It
    also shows him bragging about how great Aikido is.
     
  13. Flakey

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    So he enjoys it but just doesn't do it well.
     
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    This guy has the right idea. You don't have to be very good at martial arts to kick or punch someone in the groin. Now, combine that with a highly concealable pistol, like a .25 automatic, and you're ready for the street. For a man my age, it's about all I got left.
     
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    Smells more like Tween Spirit...:D
     
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    That’s what happens when your Martial Art doesn’t incorporate sparring against an actively resisting opponent. There is no way to test how effective your technique is.
     
  17. Flakey

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    I very much agree!
     
  18. Solrac Kai

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    Don’t dismiss martial arts that actually focus on combat as not developing body and mind, providing harmony etc. My analogy would be becoming an expert shot, hitting the bullseye at are far distance, hitting that stationary target, but also being able to hit one that is moving should the need arise.
     
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    I can't read minds, so it just looked to me as though he had no idea how to defend himself.

    I thought trying to run away during the second "round" was his best move, even though his "time-out" hand gesture in the first was more effective.
     
  20. Flakey

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    Yes, pretty much it. Running away in a small square room with no way out only puts him in a corner for a beat down. :lol: Like you, I can't read his mind either but I would think that fact would have inspired him to be a bit more creative and assertive in defending himself.
     
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