I was having this exact conversation with a friend the other day. Although really, we've been living with that album warts and all for almost 40 years. It's like the White Album remix- amazing to hear, but when I want to hear those songs I listen to the original mix."TIM" desperately needs to be remixed. A box full of great songs wrapped in a horrible, tinny, mix.
Yeah, it’s such a great album and but there’s absolutely zero bottom end to the drums and bass.I was having this exact conversation with a friend the other day. Although really, we've been living with that album warts and all for almost 40 years. It's like the White Album remix- amazing to hear, but when I want to hear those songs I listen to the original mix.
They hired Tommy Erdelyi (aka Tommy Ramone) to produce that record because they liked sound of the Ramones records he'd produced. Apparently when Westerberg heard the final mix, he said "I guess we really wanted Ed Stasium" (Stasium had engineered the Ramones records for Erdelyi, but hadn't worked on Tim).
I really, really liked the Replacements back in the day but I can't listen to them any more. It's not them, it's me.
Tim has its production flaws for sure, but honestly this is how I feel about Pleased to Meet Me. Hated the production on that one from Day One, and it still sounds harsh and dated to my ears. Those ungodly gated drums! If I recall correctly, PTMM was an early digital recording, and I think that accounts for some of the lack of air. But, if I also recall correctly, that sound is baked in, a remix couldn't help."TIM" desperately needs to be remixed. A box full of great songs wrapped in a horrible, tinny, mix.
Wow, I had no idea this existed, thank you!
I’m shocked nobody here hates the Replacements, or said “Oh yeah? Bob Seeger is better”.
it’s really fun to listen to Bob Stinson‘s solos on the early stuff and try to grab a few notes, what was going on in his mind? He was a huge Yes fan.
Yup, put me down as one of those Mats fans that feels Bob was the heart and soul of the band, as well as its secret ingredient. His guitar pushes their records all over the map, incredible stuff. So rare to hear a guitarist with such chops, but also gifted with incredible good, sometimes wonderfully bad, taste. Post-Bob, the band became barely interesting to me.When the Mats showed up in Memphis to record "Pleased to Meet Me" with Jim Dickinson, Jim was really pissed off that they showed up without Bob.
Some of my friends were really excited about that set, but to me that was the record Westerberg decided to try and make more "commercial" music in an attempt to try to have an actual hit, and the songwriting suffered badly. Slightly better sounding versions of songs I didn't like in the first place? Thanks, but I'll pass.On a related note: I recently picked up the “Dead Man’s Pop” box set which includes the previously unreleased Matt Wallace mix of the “Don’t Tell A Soul” LP. It’s the original mix that the Mats wanted to use for the album that’s drier with less reverb and more rough around the edges than what was eventually used. The tracklisting is slightly altered and some songs sound like different takes altogether to my ears.
Am I the only one who likes Tommy’s solo stuff better than Chris’s and then Paul’s. In that order?
I love Westerberg's touch on the guitar, the groves he creates with chord progressions. I'd rather listen to him grooving on rhythm guitar than most other guitarists' lead guitar playing.