The Rat: let's see what all the fuss is about

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  1. tele-bastard

    tele-bastard Friend of Leo's

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    Over the years there has been a lot of talk about this pedal on here and I've never tried it. I had a walrus audio Iron Horse for a while which was supposed to be a modded rat and didn't really care for it because it took away the highs too much. This is a very Lively pedal I'm digging it a lot and I only played it for like 10 minutes. I wish the sweep was a little bit better but it gets pretty chimy and clean when you turn the Distortion all the way down but then goes to almost pretty much dimed to right away when you turn the knob up. It's pretty filthy though and I think I love it. The filter is pretty useful I'll definitely use something else for a low gain although with the Distortion almost all the way off is pretty useful as well. I'm pretty sure this will be my main distortion when I need to get heavy even though I play a much more mellow subtle stuff these days. I am pretty happy this pedal is quite responsive. How many of you still use a Rat.

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  2. RetroTeleRod

    RetroTeleRod Poster Extraordinaire

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    Love my Rat! I had Keith at Machine Head Pedals mod mine for a bit less gain. Rats are very versatile. Right now it's the only dirt pedal on my main board.
     
  3. MrCoolGuy

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    Rats are ok... but, for that type of thing I prefer a DS1. Say what you will, but to me they sound much better... tough Rats probably are more versatile.
    And my DS-1 is a Japanese long-dash...
     
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  4. Collin D Plonker

    Collin D Plonker Tele-Afflicted

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    Have fun with it. I didn't bond with it, but it's wildly popular. Lots of folks love it. It rocks, for sure.
     
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    tubelectron Tele-Afflicted

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    The RAT !
    It's my main overdrive-distortion.
    The 1981 Rev. B only, and with the famous LM308N...

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    A RAT 1981 Rev. B plus a Ge Booster-Overdrive in front, both switchables independently = The IBM...

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    A RAT 1981 Rev. B plus a Wah, both switchable independently = The SMOBY...

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    I consider that famous RAT 1981 Rev. B circuit with its LM308N chip to be one of the most successful overdrive-distortion ever produced. :cool:

    But it's me, OK ? :D

    -tbln.
     
  6. unfamous

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    My first and favorite pedal, bought before I knew what it was or what it did. Stacked now with an MXR M75 super badass.
     
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  7. tele-bastard

    tele-bastard Friend of Leo's

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    My mxr Prime distortion is based off of a DS1
     
  8. Phrygian77

    Phrygian77 Friend of Leo's

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    I got one to try, a Mooer Black Secret, since everytime there's a discussion about MIB pedals, someone inevitably says, "Dude! Get a Rat!" Well, it ain't the same folks! It's definitely different.
     
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    I’ve felt guilty since buying the
    R.Attack...being a Michigan boy and Proco being Just a couple hours south.
     
  10. beyer160

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    I love Rats, but my favorite is the "Turbo" version with LED clipping- it's less compressed and sounds more amp-like.
     
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  11. 4pickupguy

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    Anyone wanting to try a Rat owes it to themselves to try a quality example. Not all are created equal, not even all Proco Rats are created equal. I think the current V2 is not the quality units of the past. Not even counting the OP amp chip, and, probably more likely, the rest of the components. I was simply putting the knobs back on one I got from GC about 4 years ago and blew the potentiometer apart. I couldn’t believe how crappy some of components were. Rats are great ODs though. Find a good one! If I ever get to come home I will build my board and I will have a Rat on it for sure.
     
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    I have a killer clone, i use it alot. Its made with all good stuff, including the 308 chip.
     
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    I have a Black Rat which is pretty much the Black Secret in this video, including the turbo switch.
    Most of the differences ... are like any two identical pedals will have variation in tones from part tolerance variation at build.



    I also use a pair of DS-1s instead of a TS and used them stacked like this video.


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  14. Telenator

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    I bought a RAT based on the great reviews. It was OK.

    The thing I didn't like is the raw, saw tooth edge to the sound. It had a nasty sizzle in the high frequencies that I just couldn't dial out without ruining other parts of the spectrum. It sounded ratty in cheap, 8" speaker, tiny amp, sort of way. Not for me.
     
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    Rats work with amps that need a kick to get going.
     
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    I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
    So many distortion pedals have this grainy buzz I just can't deal with.
    I mean...I guess you could say distortion IS a grainy buzz; but to me it's not.
    Cranked tube amps don't have it, nor do many distortion pedals.
     
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    I had an original, the one with the most desired chip. It was really good with humbuckers, not so much single coils. Sold it a few years back because as I became more of a tele purist, it just had no place on the board.
     
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    Rat pedal = grunge. I had it's younger sibling back in the 90's, the Brat pedal, also cool.
     
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    Hey, me too!

    Which goes last?
     
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